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  1. 54 minutes ago, Brand J said:

    No other team has benefited from such fortuitous circumstances like the Chiefs. Remember last year when they were getting dominated by Philly and then Hurts fumbles for 6? Or when the refs called a ticky tack hold on the Eagles defender to seal the game for KC? Or the game before that where the Bengal defender shoved Mahomes late out of bounds to put them in FG range? I can’t really explain how the bounces always seem to go their way. The one time it didn’t - last night where the 49ers were gifted a fresh set of downs after a defensive hold - they still come through with the TD to steal it in the end. They’ve got a knack for winning even when they should lose. Gotta give it to them.

     

    The only reason the Chiefs scored a TD in regulation last night is because the ball clipped a Niner's heel from a punt.

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  2. 3 hours ago, zow2 said:

     

    I agree about the defense, they played awesome...but Mahomes did make plays to tie at the end and he lead them to the winning TD in OT.   You can't just say he was along for the ride.  He willed them to win imo.  He has the it factor.

     

    True, but Josh has that too. The surrounding parts made it tick for the Chiefs and kept them in the game whilst Mahomes worked it out. More often than not, particularly post season, Josh doesn't have that luxury.

    2 hours ago, FireChans said:

    You would knowingly take a worse QB? Why?

     

    Would you have taken Drew Brees over Brady as well?

    It’s clearly NEVER going to happen for Shanahan. He forgot CMC was on the team for the third Q.

     

    EDIT - My original reply was stupidly petulant so I'm going to edit. I think 31 teams would trade for Mahomes now. I think 30 would trade for Josh. But if the question is would I could go back, keep draft position in 2017 and pick a raw Mahomes or continue, trade, and pick a raw Josh in 2018, knowing what we know, I would still go for the latter.

     

    I think Mahomes would have struggled more to learn and grow under the coaching and roster in the early days in Buffalo than Josh did. I don't think temperament wouldn't have suited the scenario he found himself in - look at the almighty sulk after the regular season game this year. I don't think he would have got to this point under McDermott; my belief is he would have looked worse than Josh because, IMO, Josh's ceiling is higher and his 'superman' mode can overcome deficiencies which even Mahomes can not. The issue is the floor - Mahomes, when struggling, does not go as low as Josh can. I also think Mahomes is better at reading the field. I appreciate zow2's argument that Josh is the better football player but Mahomes the better QB. But because of temperament and mentality, I would not still not change anything in 2017/2018 drafts when it comes to the QB pick.

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  3. 5 hours ago, FireChans said:

    100%. If I could go back to 2000, I’d draft Brady too. Everyone will agree on this in 20 years.

     

    I wouldn't, as talent wise I don't see a big enough gap between Mahomes and Josh to warrant it - whilst acknowledging Mahomes is a great QB. Mahomes went into a situation where everything well into place for him, whilst Josh has had to fight on so many levels and be patient for the Bills to get where they are.

     

    Put Mahomes on the Bills roster in 2017 and I think he would have struggled more than Josh for things to click, less because he doesn't have the talent to do so - of course he does - but more because his temperament would have quickly seen him get frustrated and annoyed at things not working out, which would have affected his play and the play of the players on offense.

     

    This is just my opinion. Mahomes is the number one QB but so many things have to fall into place to get something to work outside of the QB's control. It has for him. It hasn't for Josh.

    4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

    You mean the clock ran out so he had to settle for a FG. Then he went on for the TD? You like to play the hypothetical game. Do you not believe the Chiefs score a TD if they have 30 seconds more? If you can jog my memory did the Bills also run out of time? 

     

    No, they mean St Patrick missed a completely open Rice on the final play before the FG to throw the ball to a covered Kelce.

  4. 2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    Most of them will admit that Mahomes was the GOAT of the era in 20 years. They just don’t want to right now because it sucks for us. 

     

    If you could go back would you take Mahomes in the draft in 2017 and accept Josh going elsewhere?

  5. Just now, zow2 said:

     

    There’s just little things each game that add up like accuracy, ball placement, pocket awareness… not huge differences but enough to give Mahomes all these SB’s.  

    As i’ve said before i think Josh Allen is the best football player in the league.  But Mahomes is the best QB and it’s indisputable. 

     

    Mahomes did not lead the Chiefs to victory tonight. Their defense did. Something Josh cannot rely on come the post season.

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  6. 2 minutes ago, Talley56 said:

    Maybe WAYYYY too soon to ponder this but if the NFL goes the route of opening next season with a Thursday night game hosted by the defending champs, here are all of KC's home opponents next year.  Safe pick for KC's Thursday night opener might be Baltimore but I'm thinking it might be the Chargers with Jim Harbaugh's first game as coach.  Again, IF they go the usual route, I could see it happening.

     

    Baltimore Ravens

    Cincinnati Bengals

    Denver Broncos

    Houston Texans

    Las Vegas Raiders

    Los Angeles Chargers

    New Orleans Saints

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers

     

    Or the Ravens, in a re-run of the AFC Championship game (except the Chiefs are at home).

  7. Just now, BBFL said:


    100%. Don’t know why they gave up running the ball… His success that 1st quarter was because they were moving it on the ground.

     

    The Chiefs D adjusted to that.

     

    I might risk 4th Down here, considering the Niners can't move the ball.

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