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Milanos Milano

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  1. If you aren’t winning Super Bowls, you are inept. There is no difference between the first loser or the last loser. Both are losers.
  2. Lol a fan of losing? No wonder Bills have always been losers.
  3. I honestly wish I was the owner, maybe we wouldn’t be perennial losers.
  4. I think it would be a pressure release for sure, it would alleviate the symptoms of perennially losing. However, when you are hyper competitive, I don’t think it truly ever lets up and you always want to dominate and win, even after winning. You then want a dynasty, and you want to make your mark on the history books as the best of the best of all time. But for sure the day we finally win one, will be a great day for sure. Hope I’m around to see it.
  5. Fans that are generally athletic or used to be athletic or wish they were athletic project themselves onto the field, the players are merely a projection of self identity. When they are winning, we are winning. It’s another level of fandom. People cheer for teams they identify with and the fanatics view themselves as part of the process, even if they aren’t the one’s physically performing the tasks. It’s vicariously living, and embodying the spirit of competition. It’s why some fans take it personally, and feel pain or joy when the game is performed. Sometimes a throw feels like I made that throw, as your eyes scan the tv you shout he was open!! Because that type of fandom is just different. It’s fanatical.
  6. I think your definition of good is different than my definition of good. The Chiefs are good, they won a Super Bowl and proven to go there multiple times. The New England Patriots were good, and were good for countless years because of their ability to draft and coach the correct people. We are not good simply because we made the playoffs.
  7. It’s not possible. I can’t do that. I’d rather not even watch NFL games than to stop being so passionate about it and demanding accountability so we can be a successful franchise (Super Bowl victories).
  8. Yeah, I know exactly how you feel. The only thing that has begun to wear on that bond is players going through the motions. If it appears to get worse over the next few years, I may just mail it in. How can one be a fan of a sport to where players just go through the motions and nobody is held to any accountability (management or player)? Why can’t McD just acknowledge that what went on against the Steelers was unacceptable and not a reflection of Buffalo? It’s like they don’t care, which make it slowly eat away at my fandom more than anything.
  9. It’s not that I could ever be a fan of another team, that is indeed impossible for me as well. If I were to ever lose interest, it would be for the whole NFL in general. I’d likely stop watching games and just focus on something else to do. I’m not even sure that is possible, the Bills always manage to suck me in, even through all the ineptitude. I find these last few years to be even more frustrating than the drought years, at least we knew we sucked and were terrible and there was no expectations. We have Josh Allen and we are wasting him, which feels like a crime.
  10. Genuinely curious, is there a limit to how much money you could pay a scout for their successful talent evaluation?
  11. Sorry, not you as in you personally. Just saying that “you take it personally” in describing bills fans that care the most about only winning. I do take it personally, like a lot. To the point to where I feel personally embarrassed as if I’m the one that sucked bad enough to lose. Maybe I do it because I’m a hyper competitive person that views any interests as an extension of themselves even if they cannot directly contribute. We all like to think we have some contribution (ie offering our own talent evaluation, or game analysis on what went right/wrong) or offering up solutions to win. I honestly probably shouldn’t, as it seems the players don’t even take it personally. It doesn’t appear they even let it be an extension of their identity and they just go through the motions. I think that is why people like me truly enjoy the “pureness” of non professional sports, because the spirit of competition does seem to be an extension of personal identity and they do take winning/losing personally. The main reason why people flock to the professional sporting world though ( even if that “pureness” is diminished) is because of the quality level of play is much more entertaining. I’m not sure the NFL will ever encapsulate the spirit of competition ( I think they once were closer to it than they are today), which I think fans like me will eventually lose interest. Especially if the “fakeness” level increases to the point where people start to detach from that kind of fandom.
  12. You are likely closer to fanatic fan than casual fan. You want to win, period. You get mad and want accountability. There are a lot of fans that don’t care about that, they just truly enjoy football being on tv or going to watch it at face value. There isn’t anything particularly wrong with that, but the fanatics view it as complacency and stagnation which breeds indifferent talent on the field. People like me want a continuously hungry team and management that wins super bowls. We always say why not us? Why can’t we be a successful franchise that has won multiple championships in their history. You take it personal. That is a different kind of fandom.
  13. This is true, but if you had to prioritize one, which one do you prioritize? Like I’m happy the Bills are in Buffalo, but at the same time, I’m much much much more happy about winning and dominating the competition. It’s not really that terrible. There are some fans like me where winning is the priority, everything else is secondary or tertiary. Fans that prioritize winning take games personally and want accountability on all fronts so that we stop losing. It’s a different type of fandom, which is why I divided it up.
  14. So you don’t generally get overly emotional if the Bills lose a game, or if they don’t win a Super Bowl in a particular year? So not much slighted at coaching mistakes or management decisions? You just turn on the game and fully go in knowing that football will be played and you just digest it for what it is? I kind of wish I could enjoy game day like that, but it just isn’t possible for me. It’s winning or being upset and trying to understand why we lost and how to get better to the point to where we lose less and less.
  15. This is also a fair point, and I understand this as I’m from the WNY region. But at some point the pain of ineptitude begins to eat away at your Bills blood. At least it has begun to do that with me. I don’t think I could ever fully quit the Bills either, but my caring levels have taken a hit recently because I just can’t understand wanting to be a fan in what appears to be perpetual ineptitude or players not caring as much as the fans do. It makes you start questioning the spirt of the game, and it begins to feel fake. I don’t want that, because the moment to where the perceived “fakeness” grows to an unsustainable point, I just don’t see how the love for the professional league can keep alive. Football isn’t really an entertainment to me, it’s a way of life to dominate the competition. To win and to be the best for the spirit of competition.
  16. This is a fair take, and I appreciate your input. Some people will view this as a troll thread, but I’m genuinely interested to understand why people are generally fans. Especially knowing and participating in all the terrible years of ineptitude we’ve been through. But my question to you is, why not us? Why not the Bills? Eventhough less than 20% of the league hasn’t won a Super Bowl, why can’t we become one of those successful franchises that have won multiple championships? Is it because our owners have been largely too inept or unwilling to spend money to acquire the talent needed? Pegulas seem to be willing to spend all the money needed, so why are we still struggling? That must mean it is because they have hired people that are too incompetent to bring in enough talent to win a championship or coaches to teach the talent enough to win a championships or a combination of both. Or it could just mean the players or coaches don’t really care enough, but which again reflects back on management and ownership on not hiring the proper people to win. At some point as a fan who cares about winning over entertainment, you begin to ask hard questions as to why we are not winning. Looking for ways to win it all, and questioning other fans or players about not caring enough to want to win. We already have Josh Allen, I don’t understand why we can’t get over the hump. The hardest piece has already been found, why can’t management make it work?
  17. You play how you practice. If you can’t take practice seriously, it will eventually bleed over into game day.
  18. Lol what other options should be included? Most people are either a fan because they want to win, or simply just to be entertained on game day and winning is secondary. Just like how players seem to feel like winning is secondary and the money is the priority.
  19. Sometimes I feel like the coaches and players do not care about the game of football and winning as much as the fans do. A lot of these players simply enter the league to collect a high paying job and playing a sport they love is 2nd place. Some fans love it for the simplicity of being entertained, even if they don’t win. It’s something to do on Sunday to pass the time and enjoy the community bond. As a fan of anything in life, I’m competitive, I just want to be dominant and the best I can possibly be at anything I do. Sure some entertainment does come from it, but it’s not the priority, its a byproduct of just wanting to win it all. I think fans like me will eventually lose interest at some point and revert back to more “pure” sport competitions that still have the spirit of winning and dominating and not something to just go through the motions to collect a check. I think it is why a lot of fans enjoy more college and HS sporting events than professional events. As a fan of the Bills, do you take it to personally like I do? Does being a perennial loser eat away at your fandom? Especially knowing that some players just seem to not really care about winning? I don’t think it’s the losing so much that bothers me (it does, but that isn’t the heart wrenching part of being a Bills fan). It’s possibly knowing that players aren’t giving 100% to win because they don’t care as much as fans do. Which sometimes gives off the impression that the NFL is fake or not worthy of following anymore. I’ve been a Bills fan all my life, and it’s sometimes really disappointing. Especially when you know you have an elite talent at QB that doesn’t come around very often. Then you begin to wonder if the team will ever win, and then you start questioning is it because of incompetence or just going through the motions of collecting money. Bills fans that are just in it for the entertainment likely don’t take the game as personally as I and other Bills fans do that prioritize winning above entertainment. That would explain why some fans lash out more often than other fans do. Then you start questioning each others fandoms and it spirals into a mess. It would be nice to have some of y’all to discuss how you feel about all of this.
  20. If our D somehow manages to collapse this year, I just don’t see how McD wouldn’t be in the hot seat. It’s crazy to me that the owners basically seemed unconcerned and wrote a blank check and hitched their wagons without better supporting evidence.
  21. Officially concerned. It’s just a preseason game, I understand that, but how this game unfolded had a flavor to it that made it so off putting. It was wretched, and it felt exactly like a Bengals hangover. The same disarray and complete flatness just should not happen, even for a preseason game. We got punched in the mouth, AGAIN! Things have been off since the Miami playoff game. I have no idea what it is, can’t put my finger on it. While I still feel like we will squeeze out a playoff appearance, the vibe seems to have shifted and we’ve gone stale. Wasting Josh Allen. It’s partly due to McD and partly due to Beane not bringing in enough talent.
  22. I just don’t want to waste Josh’s talents. I want to do everything possible to give him time in the pocket, if not I want a 1B WR over a mlb. I don’t know, I just want to win, I’m so tired of being disappointed.
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