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11 minutes ago, BBFL said:
So with Pittman gone is the next rumor added to be Mike Evans to the Chiefs?
That’s already been out there, where ya been?
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10 hours ago, Augie said:
Looking at various player rankings, it feels good to see so many OT’s in the top 50. I’m hoping we have some WR’s fall because teams are beefing up the OLine.
I wouldn’t be mad if we took an OT early for that matter.
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On 2/23/2024 at 3:28 PM, FireChans said:
I believe they do. IIRC, Brock Osweiler was such a deal.
He was packaged to Cleveland with a second for like a 4th rounder back under the condition Cleveland picked up the part of the cap hit.
Not the same, he had guaranteed money, but it wasn’t all tied to signing bonus. What screws us with the Von and Diggs deal is the amount of signing bonus/salary converted to bonus. Upfront, it allows you to pay a guy, and the cap hit gets spread out over the remainder of the contract. However, the minute he leaves you accelerate all the cap hit to that year. Os just had big guaranteed money, so they could trade that away, if anyone would take it. The basically paid in draft picks for a team to eat it.
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Nope, he’s still a loser till he’s a winner.
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There’s going to be some quality backs available in the 2M range and I’d take one. Cook is so slight framed, wouldn’t be a bad idea to have a replacement available that’s better than Johnson.
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9 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
The funny thing about this is that you read the doom and gloom of that article and the fact is:
2024 New Orleans Saints - 36m Over the Cap
2024 Buffalo Bills - 41m Over the Cap
But the big difference is we have the core pieces of a Contender in place. They have a terrible team to begin with and have to tear it down even more.
Plus side, it's not like they're going to get much worse.
They got there the same way the Bills are getting there, always mortgaging the future to pay for this year because they had a shot. It all started when they had Breese, then they thought they had enough to win the division, then they could get Carr and have another shot. This is the reason I say, take the medicine once in a while. I’d take it now, the current roster only has a shot because of JA, it will have pretty much the same shot of you cut all the fat and set yourself up for the future. Right now, KC runs the AFC, you can beat up on the Jets and Patriots all you want, it won’t matter in the end.-
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15 hours ago, WhoTom said:
There are two kinds of fans: those who watch for entertainment and those whose identities are so wrapped up in the success of their local sports team(s) that they can't simply enjoy the ride.
I'm the former, but that doesn't mean I don't care about a SB or that I'm not thoroughly bummed when they lose - especially in the playoffs. It just means that I can't control those things. Win or lose, my contribution was sitting on the couch watching the game, so I don't let the outcome affect my life or my self-esteem.
Well said. I hate when the Bills lose, but it’s not life impacting.
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Talented guy, hope he does well. This may be nothing more than leverage to get Townsend to take less.
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2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:
This has been discussed in other threads, but the main problem I see here is why any of these guys are going to choose Buffalo to sign with on the cheap when there are going to be much better options elsewhere.
And even if you take the obvious out of the equation with the Chiefs, you can argue the Bengals, Ravens, and a plethora of NFC teams are going to be better options for most championship hungry veterans because most are going to understand the Bills have no path to a championship if anything because of the head coach situation.
I wouldn’t say no path bc of MCD, but I would choose KC over Buffalo, probably Cinci, Dallas, Philly if I wanted a title and a chance to produce. Baltimore is still WR death, but a good shot for a title. Detroit is a title shot, but too many weapons to take away touches. Jax is also interesting.The big draw to Buf will be JA and a shot to be a primary target.
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I’d love to see Mooney here, feel like he might be on the lower side of high priced WRs to go. I feel like he can be a great addition.
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Just testing how long it will take for the carriers to know/react around major cities. A nice practice run before shutting off all coms and taking over the country, no big thing.
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On 2/4/2024 at 8:19 PM, bigK14094 said:
He earned his salary and was a surprising receiving threat.
The Brady connection makes this plausible. Can't tell though, CEH may not want to be #2 behind Cook.
I don’t think CEH is in any position to try to demand a starting gig after being unseated by a 6th round, nobody. He’s not good. I’d rather keep Johnson.
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2 hours ago, BBFL said:
I can’t see what avenue the Pats choose him over Mayo getting a guy for the future. Especially when they are sitting at #3 and can get one of the trio you mentioned. Plenty of cap space to build a team for whomever they draft. Throwing anywhere from $25m-35m on Baker would be a huge loss if they’re sitting in that position.
While I get your thought process it isn’t the best option for that organization to give the keys to a guy who’s had ups and downs that found himself in the right situation last year.
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3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Hill was in the final year of his contract with only $1.45M in dead cap money. Clark had two years left so there was a significant dead cap hit there around $7M. However in both cases they got considerable draft picks back in return. At the time Mahommes cap hit was $35M. Allen's is going to be $47M.
Diggs and Miler's dead cap hits for 2024 are $32M and $31M. Are you really saying you would take on over $60M in dead cap in one year by getting rid of these two players?
Can you find another example where a team in a Championship window took on over $60 M in dead cap space?
How did that retoolling workout for Favre and Rodgers? Best player of recent note was Davante Adams and they traded him on the tag. Again draft pcik compensation and no dead cap hit.
You are talking about cutting multiple players with millions in dead cap with zero return. It's just not going to happen.
Mahomes contract was restructured to get it to 35M bc you know he’s staying and the same thing can be done with Allen. You can get some compensation back for Diggs in trade and designate Von Post June 1, so it’s 45M this year and YES, I am saying I would do it. The way this team is built, it’s not good enough to win it all and that’s not good enough.BTW, last I checked, Packers still out pace the Bills in SB victories and that’s literally all that matters.
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18 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Except I really don't think you do. If you cut all those people you mentioned you are looking at tens of millions of dead cap money in one year. You still need to put together a 53 person roster and their are minimum spending numbers per season of real money.
You think Allen would stay if they tanked an entire season? Would McDermott stay? Do you think the fans would put up with a purposeful nonplayoff season?
What you are suggesting is absolute lunacy. When teams shed contacts it is because they are already terrible like Beane did in year 2 of this regime.
No team in NFL history has ever tanked a season with a franchise QB.
You can't be taken seriously posting stuff like this. Cutting even one of these guys with massive dead cap hits is untenable. We were two or three plays away from a Lombardi. We have ten draft picks.
Even with McDermott they will compete for a SuperBowl with just a few roster tweaks.
Now next year they can make some of the moves you suggest. The only decent player on his rookie contract that would be up for an extension would be Rousseau. And they can let him walk after his fifth year. He is nothing special. They will be able to walk away from Poyer, Diggs, Knox, Dawkins, and Miller after this upcoming season if they want to with or without some post June 1 designations. I'm not saying I agree with that but they become realistic options.
Allen can’t go anywhere, he’s under contract, same for McClappy. It’s not a tank, it’s a rebuild, with addition by subtraction. The Chiefs did it just 2 years ago, unloading Hill, Frank Clark, etc, all “key” players and wound up winning the SB. The Packers retooled several times during Favre/Rodgers time. What you are saying is “I’m scared to watch a team cut the fat”. Poyer’s contract was set up to let him go this year btw, so pretending you have any idea what you are talking about is amusing. Yes, it will hurt, yes, you will have to part ways/not resign others because of taking the garbage out and yea some may have to be post June 1 designations to make it all spread out and hurt less, but it’s all doable and a lot of it needs to happen.-
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3 hours ago, cle23 said:
The lengths people will go to discredit Purdy are outright insane.
Whichever talking head said “Purdy could walk on water and you all would say “it’s because he doesn’t know how to swim”” had it right. The kid had an MVP season and everyone goes out of their way to find fault. If he had just been a higher draft pick, none of this non-sense would be out there. He played a really good game in the SB, lead a late game go ahead drive and scored in OT, but it was all his fault. Nonsense. He didn’t collapse, his OL sure did, but he played good enough to win. He outplayed our own JA in the playoffs, oddly enough, it was Chris Jones who wrecked both clear TD passes for the Bills and the 9ers by being on the QB before they could throw. Allen had a little time before it happened, Purdy had nothing. Credit the team around him all you want, that’s a weak ass excuse. He was making his money with the 3rd WR. So say what you want, I’m not buying.
5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:This leak could be from the Bucs and aimed at getting Winfield Jr signed to an extension due to the threat of the tag. Once he signs they can tag Baker if needed.
They won’t tag Baker, it’s takes away all their leverage. He’s good, not elite, should be able to get him back at ~30M, no need to go insane.
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8 minutes ago, SCBills said:
What do you disagree with?
I just advocated for signing vet minimum/cheap players, drafting two WR's in the first 4 rounds to replace Gabe, Harty, Sherfield and then spending the rest of the draft on defense to fill in around Von, Rousseau, Oliver, Jonathan, Milano, Bernard, Williams, Spector, Johnson, Douglas, Benford, Elam and Poyer.
Moving off Diggs and Von doesn't seem feasible this year, Knox we can move after this year, so our options to truly blow it up this season are cutting White (I'm ok with that), Morse, Poyer and Douglas.
I’m saying, eat it this year. Eat the dead cap, cut the fat and rely on rookies/coaches to make a difference. Diggs and Miller CAN both go, it’s going to hurt. I’d take it for one year vs another year of nothing and no advancement towards a title.
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31 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I somewhat agree with blowing it up, but disagree about a reset year.. it's malpractice to do that in a prime year of someone like Josh Allen.
The Offense comes back largely in tact. We can easily bring back David Edwards as OL6 and Ty Johnson as RB2, and then we're essentially the same exact Offense as last year, but with the ability to upgrade in the passing game, even if Diggs takes a step back. Shakir Year 3, Kincaid Year 2, Cook Year 2 as feature back, Year 2 of Brady and the ability to draft 1 or 2 WR's in the top half of the draft to improve on Gabe Davis and Co.
The Offense could be the best it's been since we drafted Josh Allen.
Now the Defense on the other hand.. that's where we need a KC '22 like draft to get younger and pray that Von Miller is back to 80-85% of what he was pre-injury.
Will our Front Office take that risk or are they going to kick the can to keep paying out a bunch of moderately expensive vet contracts on that side of the ball?
This is where I disagree, stop hoping JA can carry you to a title. He’s proven he needs help. I’m not sure how many more years he can play like a mad man, trying to hide the flaws, but it’s time to take a year and say, “ if you can go full Mahomes and win in a rebuild year, good for you, but no expectations”. Continuing to add condiments to a turd sandwich won’t make you a 5 star meal, you need to throw it out and start with fresh ingredients.
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10 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
You don't know how the NFL works. I'm not trying to be mean but contracts just don't work that way in the NFL. Very few have large amounts of guaranteed money. So players agree to huge signing bonuses to get the most money up front. Teams add years to lessen the cap hit in the present. These dead cap hits only get worse if you cut the player early.
And it's interesting the only player you didn't list who actually can and should be cut, but actually makes sense for both parties to agree to a paycut is White.
I understand the cap and the rules very well, White is already gone in my mind. You don’t understand, I am saying, blow it up, eat ***** this year, and deal with it. Then you go into next year with a large amount of salary cap to work with. This team as it is, with the cap that’s left after kicking the can down the road again, is t good enough to win a Superbowl and to me, there’s no point in another year of an early playoff exit.
I don’t want to be good, I want to be great. Greatness takes sacrifice and admitting you have a problem. Remember year one of Beane? He trimmed the fat off roster. The problem is, he turned around and added a lot of fat because they continued to miss in the draft. To make up for bad drafting, they had to pay veterans. Now you have one of the oldest rosters in the NFL and no way out without suffering. So clean it up, deal with it for a year and move on. The defense is a disaster after spending years trying to be a great defense.
They have one good player on the entire DL that they drafted. The best hope is to sign a 33 yr old DT and pray he stays healthy to keep the run game in check. There is not one impact DE on the roster, the LB core is ok when Milano is back, the S position is a gapping hole, CB is weak and expensive. What are you trying to save? Dump White, Miller, Floyd’s gone, AJE will be priced out, Jones is 83 by NFL standards, you have the least athletic CBs of any contending team. The only saving grace is LB and that’s assuming they can stay healthy. This is the year to eat it and start over.
The offense needs a talent infusion as well, but at least Kincaid looks good, Knox is over paid for his production, Diggs has fallen flat the back half of the last two years, I’m not excited about paying that guy so much either, so move him for whatever you can get, and you are really no worse off in the short term, and have room to breath long term.
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4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
That's why I say take the cap hits this year, draft well amd do nothing FA wise until after June 1st. At some point we have to do this, I say get it over with now.
If it were me, I’d blow it up now and start fresh, but it’s not my toy. Miller, Diggs, Knox, Morse, Bass, etc would all be taking massive past cuts or be hitting the streets.
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14 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
The way I understand but (and freely admit I may be wrong) is they had until today to work out a new deal where if they had they 4.3M would have rolled over to his new contract. Being that they didn't it's the same as cutting him due to the contract being voided this the dead cap hit for this season.
All in all on that list including Hyde, Settle and others it appears the Bills will be hit with around $12M total dead cap hits today. Very ouch.
Pretty much it, the contract was set up to allow them an extra player they couldn’t afford last year, now you eat it. It’s a pretty common practice, just kicks the can down the road. The Bills have to hit re-set here soon and eat ***** for a year or continue to be just good enough to disappoint.
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Data is obviously trash, everyone that goes to Nashville gets hammered and they are all from somewhere else, coming to watch their team, the Titans don’t have any fans.
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2 minutes ago, Special K said:
From what I read, after contract restructures from Allen and others, plus contract extensions for Dawkins, Douglas and Taron, the Bills will be 20-30 million under the cap....we shall see.
Re-structures just kick the can down the road, in order to get better, you have to re-set at some point or you end up in the same place.
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4 minutes ago, Special K said:
I’m sure Beane could use his cap wizardry to structure an Aiyuk extension to have a lower cap hit until Diggs contract comes off the books.....it is entirely possible that Diggs may be here for only one more season.
I would think drafting a WR in the first round instead is the smart move cap-wise, but there is no guarantee that pick would pan out.(Remind me.....has late first round pick Kair Elam become a lockdown CB yet??) A guy like Aiyuk has already established himself as the real deal, IMO.
To play Devils Advocate, would you rather have Justin Jefferson or Diggs? Jefferson has been remarkably cheaper and better. That was the trade to get the “sure thing”. There’s risk in everything, but to get another good, not great, WR you have to pay top of the market money to is not smart. This is not Tyreek Hill, this is not a guy who you can say translates well, no matter what system he’s in, this is not a guy that’s been an unquestioned #1. This guy is a huge risk too.
Ed Oliver is playing out of his mind this season
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The truth will not be tolerated here! He was over rated and over drafted. Everyone got sucked into the Donald hype and he’s not close. The painful part is, there were 3 other DTs drafted after him that are all true impact players and far better. He’s good, just not special.