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6 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:
Thank you. He wasn’t wrong.
However, he has no future as a diplomat.
Actually Diggs has no idea where the bills will be this coming season or the one after that. Better off without him is my guess, but like Diggs, it’s only a guess…
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2 hours ago, 90sBills said:
Mahomes is much better at taking what defenses give him. Recognizing how defenses are playing him and getting the ball to the right receiver against those defenses. He’s also much better at knowing game situations and what it takes to win as opposed to stats accumulation. That’s a large reason why KC is winning SB’s. It’s a team game but the QB holds the biggest key. Your team is not winning multiple SB’s if your QB is not operating at this mental level of the game.Josh’s biggest problem is not recognizing what’s given to him and taking it instead of forcing it further up the field. If he could figure this out we would be almost unstoppable.
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1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:
The thing is, guys like Epenesa are pretty good late 2nd round picks. There is, of course, a big difference between early 2nd and late 2nd.
Look at the players projected to be available at 60 this year and compare that to what will likely be available early 2nd. It is a very big difference.
Given this team is undergoing a mini rebuild and picking late in each round, I think they are best off taking best player available at high value positions. They have to find contributors. I know they have to find a WR, but after that, they can easily justify best player available at DE, DT, CB, S. By the time they are into their picks in the late 4th and later, any position is in play (in my opinion) - just find the best players that are there.
I don’t think that is a slight chance. I think 8-8 this year is probably about what to expect, but a key injury to Allen, Oliver, or maybe someone else and it could be worse. What does the season look like if Von Miller doesn’t play any better than last year? It could get pretty ugly.
Epenesa might be a good late second round pick but he’s like a place holder, he just doesn’t bring enough to make a difference. I would rather have given up a latter pick to get an earlier pick, or maybe Beane was just reaching for need instead of best available. Either way, we need at least 2 impactful players added. Wide receiver and safety? Or Wide Receiver and edge? I’d take someone who turns into a quality center also.
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18 hours ago, Simon said:
Every single one of those guys has shown ability as a playmaker at this level.
And every single one of them was injured when the Bills were eliminated this year.
That's nearly 60% of your starting defense either out or playing with only three limbs.
No amount of scheming or depth can overcome that.
If we were healthy and Kc had our injuries that game wouldn’t have been close IMO.
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1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:
They aren’t running it back, they are doing a mini-rebuild. Give them 2 off-seasons to get younger.
I meant just getting average players in the draft. I do know they have to get younger. But we have drafted at the end of the round and honestly Bean has made some mistakes. so if trading up is what it takes I’ll say this, he needs to hit on our first two rounds, and these guys need to provide more than the Boogies and Epenesa’s of past drafts…
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On 4/3/2024 at 3:09 PM, Blackbeard said:
We are entering the teams second window with Allen.
We will NEVER see another QB his calibre on this team. Not in this lifetime.
GO ALL IN NOW. GET TOP TARGET.
This team lacks difference makers, running it back with more average players isn’t going to get it done. Go get some difference makers this team needs some.
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1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:
Like everyone else on the defense, he was hurt. But yeah he did fail to bounce back from that hurt and produce again.
I guess nobody but Floyd knows what his status truly was in the playoffs, but he brought very little that’s for sure.
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11 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:
The sports "Media" is already beginning their "analysis" that the Bills are done in 2024. The Athletic (a NYT company) has an article today by the Jets beat writer about how the Jets have the most talented roster in the AFC East (their 80 year old QB not withstanding) and we all know how objective the NYT is.
https://theathletic.com/5388899/2024/04/04/jets-best-afc-east-roster-diggs-trade/
How much are we really going to miss any of the players released, traded or not re-signed this off-season?
Wide Receivers
Let's start with the elephant in the room. The Bills moved on from both veteran boundary receivers including "superstar" Stefon Diggs. Those two accounted for 2349 receiving yards last season and 15 TDs. However, Davis caught only 56% of his targets and after week 6 Diggs caught only 61% of his opportunities. In fact, Diggs, after week 6, was on pace to only put up 830 yards (on 145 targets) in a full season. That would have put him 25 in NFL. He also was clearly no longer a fit in a Joe Brady offense.
On the other hand Kincaid and Shakir flourished after week 6. Kincaid was inactive in week 6, but over the next 13 weeks (including the playoffs) his usage increased and he paced for 860 yards over a 17 week season. His usage in his second season should increase further with Diggs gone. Shakir's game also changed after week 6. In the first 6 weeks last season, Shakir averaged less than 1 target per game. 1 target! After week six, Shakir was on pace for 845 yards (on only 68 targets).
I also researched how the average WR drafted from 20-40 over the last 5 years produced in his rookie season. The average was about 660 yards. There were some stars like Jefferson, Tee Higgins, and Jordan Addison and some duds, but for the most part most were solid to good. I'm confident that Beane & Co will find someone in the draft to help the Bills stretch the field with their 1st pick, something we didn't have last season.
In addition we added proven slot receiver Curtis Samuel who should flourish in Brady's offense and we aren't going to miss the departed Harty or Sherfield at all.
Defensive Line
Are we really going to miss Phillips, Lawson, Ford or Settle? No didn't think so. That leaves Leonard Floyd. No BS, we are going to miss him. The hope here is that Miller can capture at least some of his old form (he did look better in the playoffs) and that he and Epenesa can be effective enough to allow Rousseau to go back to his natural position and make up for the loss of Floyd. My hope is that they draft a edge rusher in the 2nd rd to help make up for the loss.
Offensive line
Out with Bates and Morse. Considering Bates played all of 35 snaps, I don't think he'll be missed. Morse on the other hand has been the Bills center for the last 5 years and has done a very good job, but at 32 it is a reasonable question to ask how much he has left in the tank. Beane solution is moving McGovern to center and creating a competition for the guard spot to returnee David Edwards (148 snaps last season - the most by a Bills backup OL) and presumably veteran La'el Collins. Collins has started 86 of 89 career games as a rt, but missed last season with injuries.
Running back
Lat Murray, Hines and Harris are gone. They won't be missed. Cook became a star last season. Ty Johnson also returns and was very effective last season in limited reps. The Bills will likely add another back at some point
Safety
Out with Hyde and Poyer and in with Mike Edwards and Rapp becomes a starter. This is a slight downgrade based on last year's grades, but it was time to move on from Hyde and Poyer.
Corners and Linebackers
White and Dodson are the big name departures, but given White's injury history and the return to health of pro bower Matt Milano, the play of Taron Johnson, Douglas, Benard and Benford, I don't think we'll miss either player.
On paper the Bills are slightly downgraded. We have fair questions at WR, OL, DL and safety. However, I'm not worried about the wide receivers. To me, removing DIggs and Davis has opened the opportunity for Allen to longer have to worry about Diggs getting targets. He can now focus solely on who is open. At safety, the declines in Poyer and Hyde were very noticeable and Rapp and Edwards should give us at least when the vets did. I'm also not worried about the OL. Torrence and Brown should continue to improve and McGovern proved he has a very capable interior lineman last season. The only loss the really worries me is Floyd.
Despite the downgrades on paper, I can see the Bills actually improving next season. I think the offense will be better and more consistent. Besides Allen and Dawkins, the heart of the offense are all young players in Brown, Torrence, Shakir, Kincaid and Cook who should continue to improve.
On defense it's much the same story. Oliver, Milano and T Johnson are the core, but they received a significant lift from improving kids Benford, Benard, and Rousseau.
Floyd fell off a cliff, not sure it hurts as much as you think. What did he bring the the second half if the season?
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8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Football wise...I am EXCITED about the roles of Shakir and Kincaid expanding. Management wise, I am puzzled why we didn't do this after June 1st and lessen the cap burden given we didn't get back any draft capital in this draft.
I am actually not that concerned about the offense, I think we will still be an elite offense, I mean we were last year and went 6-1 with our WR1 and WR2 producing very little in that time last year.
I just don't understand the timing if we didn't get a pick in this draft.
Because maybe Houston wanted it settled before the draft.
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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:
Oh, that's right, our deep linebacking pool definitely wasn't a key reason Josh was golfing again while other teams were playing for Super Bowls.
Simpson was learning behind absolute studs last year. Now that they let Queen walk, he'll have his shot this year. Meanwhile, Allen will once again be golfing next January if you get your wish and we get a 6th passing option for the offense instead of addressing the primary reason our team is not a serious SB contender.We didn’t move on because our offense struggled, stalled, at the 20 yard line, not because our defense failed.
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On 1/30/2024 at 3:38 PM, hondo in seattle said:
You might be right but let me make some observations before asking you something.
There are two basic offensive systems in the NFL: Erhardt-Perkins and West Coast. I've heard coaches and players say all NFL teams run, more-or-less, the same plays. So there are two basic playbooks: E-P and West Coast. And there's a lot of overlap between the two.
Coordinators tweak and combine ideas as they feel appropriate to create their own syncretic scheme. But no coordinator is filling a playbook with plays no one has seen before based on an offensive strategy no one has considered before.
When Kurt Warner, for example, diagnoses Bills film, he knows & understands the play he's reviewing because he ran the same play (or one very similar) when he played. He knows what it's designed to do and how it's supposed to be executed.
So what is Brady's real offense? What is he going to do schematically different next year that he couldn't do this year? What plays will he use that weren't in this year's playbook?
Hopefully one where there aren’t 3 receivers within 5 yards of each other…
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On 3/23/2024 at 10:48 AM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
To get this out of the way: this isn't me claiming that I have any special juice about what's going in the war room. It also isn't an absolute path. If a player who has been forecasted in the top 10-15 is there for the taking in the 20s, I am even for a (reasonable) trade up. If Jared Verse, Brian Thomas or Adonai Mitchell (make your pick of who you think WR4 in the draft is) or whoever you think is an instant game wrecker, you take them.
However, as is often the case, I am seeing a bit of a glut around pick 20 on most mocks and Big Boards where plays transition from Week 1 Gamechanger to Week 1 Effective Starter. The truth is, with Beane at work, I don't think that there are any massive glaring immediate needs on the roster: Curtis Samuel can play outside enough that it's not critically dire. Epenesa, Groot and Miller are (in theory) a recent starting DE rotation. They have plenty of depth at LB, have theoretical starters in the secondary, the O-line is mostly intact, RB room is pretty full, and TE doesn't need more reinforcement.
Basically, while I think there are several places where the Bills could upgrade, there is at least a theoretical veteran that a rookie would need to take the job from. However, a lot of those contracts are short term, set to expire by 2026 and the team is already over the cap for 2025. If we can't get a gamewrecker, would we say no to another 3rd or 4th round pick if Beane lets someone trade in from the back end?
We have enough overpaid mid vanilla players. We need a couple difference makers. Trade up, use next years draft whatever, however. Enough of wasting Allen’s years…
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6 hours ago, Beast said:
Except Chiefs fans are pretty decent people. You’ll get treated better there as a visiting fan than you will at Highmark.Eh bad experience there, worse treatment at or outside Hardrock.
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1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I wouldn't wish that on any fanbase because we came that close to it happening to the Bills.
Don’t care, couldn’t happen to a better fan base at this point.
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23 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Read the whole thread
That would be awesome LOL
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1 hour ago, Westside said:
I would not be surprised. The failure rate of rookie WR’s is almost as bad as Qb’s. We cargo into the season with Diggs and Shakir as our two main receivers. Even if we draft one in the first, will they be able to contribute right away?
I’m worried about our depth at receiver.
I think you are forgetting about a certain tight end that our OC needs to learn how to incorporate better. Tge rookie just needs to take some pressure off Diggs…
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25 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
lol I’ll argue our offense was more efficient without Davis in the lineup. Won’t miss him at all
Allen’s interception rate certainly was better👍
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Just now, Ya Digg? said:
How is the team going to be competitive when players know that the team will make even the best player take a pay cut? No one would want to come to Buffalo if they know that’s gonna happen
His salary will be reduced, it has zero affect on anyone coming here, ya gonna say the same thing about Von? Or dumping White or Poyer? Brady understood what it took to have a competitive team, Allen will do the same, he will just push money out further, but it is coming.
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1 minute ago, Chaos said:
You expect Allen to take a pay cut?
Yes if he wants to be competitive.
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On 2/23/2024 at 10:47 PM, FireChans said:
If the Bungles don’t get a long term deal done, I don’t think they are out of the first round market at all.
Smart teams would draft a WR before it becomes a big need.
That last sentence 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
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18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Okay, so you would have used 2 roster spots on 2 Punters for 2 straight seasons?
This wasn't just Bills PR either. It was NFL PR.
nope, would have just signed him as soon as we could have. There was no reason to have him on a roster. They also could have stood by him and forced the league to deal with it. They certainly have stood by Von…
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On 2/13/2024 at 6:49 AM, ren1701 said:
Here's one - Terry Pegula split up One Sports becasue he is preparing to sell the Bills...
Or Sabres
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3 hours ago, RiotAct said:
really? I find that kind of hard to believe.
It’s true, shocking, but true…
26 minutes ago, Seventeen said:You can't fix crazy - just saw some old guy backed into a lady in a Wal-mart parking lot, got out to apologize, and the lady shot him in the face. Now facing murder charges. Deeper background checks and assault weapon bans may help but if the bad guys can't buy guns legally, they'll get them on the black market. Guns have been around for centuries but mass shootings have been on the rise for awhile. Why ?
Unchecked Mental illness and a disregard for the sanctity of human life. We can discuss that in another forum…
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4 hours ago, mannc said:
Injury excuses have always carried a lot of weight in the NFL…well done!
Maybe there should be an “If Only No One Got Hurt Lombardi Trophy”…heck, they could award it before the playoffs even start!
Not an excuse just part of the reason, if someone can’t see it made a difference they are nothing more than a 🤡. Injuries are part of the game, unfortunately you have to move on and play with what you have, no stat line reflects it, but if you don’t think they affect outcomes you are not too intelligent, in fact you have shown you are not. Nobody said the trophy should not go to the Chiefs, they survived the season as one of the healthiest teams Only a person with a complete lack of understanding team sports would think it plays no influence on the outcome. If you had a clue of what was happening on the field you would have noticed how KC’s offense came alive after the 49’rs lost their middle linebacker last night, but hey you are probably right, it didn’t affect the outcome one bit….
4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:If the Bengals had 3 out of 5 starting lineman out we would have got the job done in 2022!
Oh wait....
Actually they would have had to have their back ups back ups in and actually 6 people out on offense to be a good comparison, but thanks for playing…
How many passes could you complete?
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To which team?🤔