Ethan in Cleveland
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20 hours ago, Charles Romes said:
Frank Lewis first rounder never caught on with the Steelers. Ended up playing 13 seasons, nearly 7000 yards in a running era, two one thousand yard seasons with the Bills.
Excellent!
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28 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I'm honestly starting to really come around on the Green Bay method for our Offense. Especially with Kincaid set to take on a bigger role moving forward.
Still think we need two above average receivers added to this roster, but I'm not as sold that one of them needs to be a bona fide WR1.
Can you explain what the Green Bay Method is?
And if it is as ineffective as the rhythm method I want no part of it....
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What is the over/under on outright lies Beane told?
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I'd be ecstatic if they got Jefferson. Outside of that I'm fine with a couple rookies.
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Does Michael Vick's run with the Eagles count? Not really a bust with the Falcons, but did make a ProBowl with the Eagles, named comeback player of the year, and made the playoffs twice.
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The Wilson and Watson trades show that anything can happen.
Wilson was two firsts and two seconds
Watson three firsts and a second. Remember at the time Watson pre-sex charges was considered a top 5 QB.
The OP trade scenario is close. You would probably need to add another first round pick in 2026.
I would make that trade on three conditions.
First you fire McDermott.
Second you bring Brady in for one year.
Third you bring in Belichick.
Then you trade out of #1 to 3 or 4. Get another first round pick. Then draft Nabers or Harrison Jr, an OT at 9, and package #28 and one of those other picks to move up and take best pass rusher you can get.
Take a safety and another WR in round 2.
Trade up from 4th to 3rd round and get your RB#2.
In that scenario you have as good a chance at a SuperBowl as any team. Additionally you have more picks in the future. You then have a stocked young cheap offense that you can plug and play another veteran QB for 2025 if needed - say someone like Dak or Baker on a 2 year deal.
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On 4/16/2024 at 7:18 AM, Coach Tuesday said:
Great article from the Athletic. Basically says that teams routinely over-estimate their own ability to predict player performance and as a result overestimate the value of their own specific picks. Instead, they should maximize the number of lottery tickets they’re buying.
Thoughts?
I've been saying this for years.
We are lucky Allen was available when he was. You know if Cleveland or the Jets take Allen, Beane would have chose one of the other QBs that have been busts.
That said Harrison Jr and Nabers look as close to sure hits at the WR spot as any other.
Trade down is easy to say. You need a trade partner. And with a roster that had been stacked for years trading down didn't make a lot of sense because there was just not that many open roster spots.
However this year is a bit different with holes at WR x 2, safety, edge, dt, RB#2, and backup C. With a deep deep WR group and no 3rd round pick a trade out of the first round wouldn't be the worst decision.
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3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:
Loyal to the organization...novel thought these days.
What an interesting thing to say.
Poyer and White were loyal to the organization.
Apparently loyalty runs only one way in the NFL.
I will never feel bad for any player that tries to get maximum value when they can. If a player outplays his contract I support him asking for more money. I completely understand why any player would hate being tagged. Yes that one or two year contract money is great but the risk of injury and missing out on substantial guaranteed income is tremendous.
The NFL and NFLPA have done some nice things. Rookie wage scale works well to not overpay for guys that have a very good chance of being busts. Adding performance pay for rookies that outperform their contracts. A vet minimum salary that counts less against the cap. These are all good.
If I were the NFL and NFLPA I would let each team designate one QB that is outside the salary cap and you can pay them anything you want. Then you have a cap for all the other players. I would keep the roster at 53 with 10 person PS but let them dress any 53 they want on game day.
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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:
Kinda effs up a lot of anti-returner/depth sentiments with actual results. But fans will always gripe against modest and under-the-radar FA signings.
What was modest about it?
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2 hours ago, Ayjent said:
It was all there if you watched the games. He played well against a couple of good WRs and teams fell in love with what he could be instead of what he was. Terrible tackler, inconsistent in coverage, capable of getting completely lost in scheme. I thought he was being overvalued a lot in pre draft and was absolutely shocked when Bills took him. I watch all UF games and I wasn’t a fan of his game. I had hope that maybe it was just Mullen’s terrible staff that was the issue and talked myself into the pick trusting Beane. He played decent in yr 1 at times, but the chance he develops is slim at this point. Maybe it was hubris with the Bills staff and FO. There just isn’t much of a place for him other than outside CB and the Bills don’t trust him there.
Yet in limited time he has two playoff INTs - one in 2022 and one in 2023. Benford zero. Douglas zero. How can a guy who can make plays not be taught zone coverage?????
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His only value is with the Bills.
It's still shocking that he had an ankle injury bad enough to warrant IR and the coaching staff didn't either know about it or just made him inactive. He was injured in preseason and never once on injury report - just made a game day inactive.
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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:
Geezus dude.When a team is up by 32 in the 3rd quarter, 2 missed calls shouldn’t be determining the game.
Are you 100% sure there wasn’t any missed calls on Houston? It did they play a perfectly flawless game?
What Reich did in the game outweighs those two missed calls. It had 1 million percent more influence on the game.
It was more than that too...He threw a pass that went right through the defenders hands and should have been another pick 6. Think it went to Metzalaars. And Houston not playing for an onside kick. Crazy stuff.
But I get your point, for one magical 28 minutes or so he was unbelievable! A HOF moment in an otherwise forgettable career.
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8 hours ago, amprov56 said:
You had to be there in 1993 or you 'll never understand, its a thing that only fans as old as the franchise can grasp!
I was in medical school watching the game on TV. Came so close to turning it off and going for a walk. I understand the love for the comeback game.
Don't understand the love for Reich. Heck more love should go to the refs for not seeing Beebe step out of bounds or Talley commit pass interference in OT.
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30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
Red helmets are terrible sorry not sorry
They are terrible but for one game they would be awesome!!!
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Don't really understand the Reich love. There are people that wanted him to play over Kelly. All fanbases fall in lovexwith the backup QB at onextime or another. He had two magical moments (college and NFL record comebacks) in an otherwise forgettable career. Remember he threw a pick six to start the second half to make the deficit even worse.
It's debatable if he is even a good OC/HC. He didn't call the plays for the Eagles SuperBowl win. He was a failure in Indianapolis. I don't blame him for the Carolina debacle ( the owner seems like a moron).
Diggs is in the conversation for best Bills WR of all time. He did things that Reed, Moulds, Butler, Dubenion, and Evans never did.
Fitz is Fitz. A terribly flawed QB that is an incredibly likeable person.
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2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:
That really was an incredible atmosphere at the stadium for that one. It was just as crazy if not crazier than any game during the Allen era
Agreed. Besting Brady when still in their dynasty was amazing!
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Just now, chris heff said:
Other than Randy Moss, did Brady ever have a superstar receiver? Mahomes won last two Superbowls with no superstar receiver. Draft is a crapshoot, which is why I’d take two WR. I’ve been a fan since 1963, not many have suffered longer.
So you should want to win now. Go for the proven commodity!
Manning won with Harrison and Wayne. Young and Montana had Rice.
Brady and Mahommes had two of the three best tight ends in NFL history. Brady had two of the best slot WRs in NFL history in Edelman and Welker. People act like Brady and these other QBs did not have weapons. They played with some of the best players at their positions in NFL history. Maybe Kincaid is in that category. He certainly has started career well.
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36 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:
Why not draft two young players on the cheap? Would you rather we pay Jefferson big money or draft two “good” players with high ceilings on cost controlled contracts? We already did this same very thing with Diggs.
Allen with two of either Legette, Worthy, Franklin, Pearsall, Polk or Burton is a very scary thought.
Lets get our very own Jefferson on a rookie contract.
1. Jefferson is a top 3 WR and a proven superstar. He's still young and has many years of superstar status
2. The draft is a lottery and there is no guarantee the two young players will be any good
3. I want to win now at all costs.
4. Yes they did the same thing with Diggs and it worked nearly perfectly. He was a top 3 WR and the offense was amazing.
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9 minutes ago, chris heff said:
I would make that trade in a second, but don’t think it’s enough and Bills don’t have the cap space to pay Jefferson.
They can convert his salry to bonus and sign him to an extension to fit him in the cap this year. I think.
Plus you give up #28 so no cap expense for that pick. I think it would be doable with the cap savings you get next season by trading Diggs.
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Good thread.
I don't know how the pros look at WR but to me I see body size and route trees as the differentiator.
To me Samuel is closer to what Diggs was.
I think they still need to replace what Davis didn't pan out to be. A guy that can get deep and be a big body on deep crossing routes. They have enough small fast guys that can find holes in the zones. They need a guy that takes the top off the defense and forces them to play 2 deep safeties. That opens up all kinds of things underneath and helps the run game.
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Just now, JoshAllin said:
Comparing Brady to someone who ***** himself in the playoffs is crazy
No it isn't.
Calling Brady fiery and OBJ out of control is lazy and borderline racist. The media does this all the time.
Manning got in shouting arguments with Jeff Saturday. Go watch the video Manning is being a jerk to Saturday. Does that show emotion and leadership or immaturity? Or is it two guys that are competitors and at the end of the day respect each other and can move on after the game.
Again winning cures everything! If you are a winner this behavior is tolerated and even lauded. Case in point your response to me including Brady. When you lose then it gets dissected and critiqued usually in a negative light.
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Honest question. How do you really evaluate a WR when they have garbage QBs throwing to them?
I'd pass based on injury history but you would really have to dig in and decide how much of that is bad luck of a chronic issue. As an aside Bills are going to have the same issue evaluating Rousseau as he seems to be injured every year and production decreases as the season wears on.
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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
You're better than this.
Be better.
First of all, in the original source, Tim Graham on the Tim Graham and Friends podcast, Graham described how disconsolate Allen was after the game, really taking the loss hard, sitting there after the game at his locker in his pads still, with a towel over his head.
Second, even Tim Graham - who was there - didn't know what Diggs said to Allen, so you can stick your "didn't want to hear...." creation somewhere.
I have no idea what "players quitting throughout the 2022 season" means.
Last, there are constructive ways and destructive ways to call a guy out. If you want to actually ahve a constructive impact, you need to do things in a constructive way.
Excellent points!
We have no idea what was said. Maybe Diggs was being a condescending dick. Maybe he wasn't.
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11 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
How big a dick would we think any Bills player was if they went up to Bass after he missed that FG against KC to ream him out? There is NO excuse for Diggs to have gone after Allen at that point. None what-so-ever. Add this to his publicly yelling at Allen on the sidelines in the Bengal's playoff game and I say good riddance Diggs. It may hurt us this year but in the long run this was the best thing that could happen to this team.
So if the white QB yells at the black WR on the sideline it's ok. But if the black WR yells at the white QB it's a no no.
Got it!
I saw Brady yell at his guys multiple times on the sideline and nobody ever called him a diva.
Mahommes and his WR argued on the sideline during the SuperBowl. Kelce argued and pushed his coach. All water under the bridge because they won.
And lastly, why do kickers get a pass. Norwood cost us a SuperBowl. He failed his biggest moment in his professional career. Yes Levy, Talley, and Kelly were just as culpable for losing SuperBowl XXV but why does Norwood get a pass? Why should Bass be absolved. He didn't do his job, maybe somebody should have gotten in his grill so he fixes his issues.
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Media Day at OBD (Beane, McDermott, Josh & more)
in The Stadium Wall
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He knows his fate is hitched to McDermott and can't do anything about it.
This is going to get a very interesting season.