Seventeen
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Herbert showing Baker how it's done
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Won't it be nice if the Steelers get the #7 seed and the Pats / Fins / Jets are all golfing ?
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
Fields is a great runner. Stroud literally does not run. Last night was like the 2nd time he tucked and ran all season. They are totally different QBs.
Stroud just might be a better passer and we now see he can run.
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8 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Great college quarterback
I don’t think he will be a franchise guy in the NFL
What's the difference between him and Fields ?
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3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I'm trying to plan for the Patriots game with a Sabres game on Saturday night. When do we know when the Bills will play?
Probably not until the week 17 games are completed
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Never been in a helicopter and that will never change
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2 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
No. Absolutely no unless I won some that I could not resell.
I have been to Phoenix stadium and there are some terrible seats there from which you can barely see a portion of field. You cannot see much on monitors either. Will NFL mandate those seats not be sold? No. Wish I had kept ticket from game and could look up what that seat is charging for Superbowl.
My Pats fan buddy was there in 2008 for the Giants/Pats SB - IIRC, he paid $1500 apiece for 2 end zone seats in the top row. According to him, partially obstructed.
Said he would have regretted it even if the Pats had won.
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Have friends in Phoenix to stay with so would be tempted to go for the pre-game parties - can't afford tix. Waste Management Open is the same weekend.
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1 hour ago, Big Turk said:
A lot of the reason 77 was so bad was due to almost complete unpreparedness for it. People did not have any idea until a few hours prior.
This is true - went to class at Buff State, closed the pub and then realized we had an issue when I walked up Elmwood and our front entrance was snowed in.
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Bills need to win out then nothing else matters.
We don't want to go back to KC again.
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1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:
Now changing their story.
first it was Tua saw Drs because Monday he had Symptoms.
Today it was we told Tua to see Dr after watching the inconsistencies on tape.
probably the reality is everyone KNEW Sunday and kept him in the game.
The 3 INTs must have been the inconsistency.
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17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Because the Bills scheme uses Allen's range to force opponents to cover the entire field.
It's much easier to cover a 1 yard throw, especially if your rep as a QB is lacking arm strength.
Maybe partially but I'm thinking it's a combination of that, lack of screen game, and Mahomes/Burrow's targets are just better (other than Diggs).
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42 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
This whole YAC thing is dumb. Who cares about YAC when you have a QB who can throw a ball 15-20 yards or more every play? If you're noodle arm Mac Jones then YAC starts to matter. Not if your Josh Allen.
Disagree - KC and Cinci are in the top 5 YAC and Mahomes/Burrow are perfectly capable of throwing a ball 15-20 downfield. So why do they rank so high in YAC ?
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Can't miss TV - Jarrett Stidham vs the Chiefs - week 18
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3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
The attractiveness of the Denver job comes down to "do you think Russ is fixable?"
If you answer yes it is the best job on the market.
If you answer no it is the worst job on the market.
I believe Russ is fixable but start with fixing the rest of the offense starting with the OL. Wilson has been sacked more than any other QB.
Why would a sure HOF QB fall off the rails w/o other contributing factors ?
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5 minutes ago, cle23 said:
The Paton thing was an autocorrect. So yes, George PATON is GM.
Did they ask Elway? Sure, I'm sure they did. Your previous article said "Elway would oversee" the trade, and completely left Paton out. He wasn't even mentioned anywhere in the article.
Just as Beane relies on assistant GMs, scouts and consultants - so does Paton. I have no doubt Elway met Wilson a few times in person along with Seattle management to gauge their interest. Paton was probably along on those trips and ultimately made the final decision on whether to accept Seattle's proposal. 'Overseeing' might have been too strong a word in the article but Elway was definitely involved and assuredly was trying to atone from his previous mistakes as GM.
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5 minutes ago, cle23 said:
Right. Some random article online, or a reporter who works in the building and has a history of being right.
George Patton is the GM. He has final roster authority. Per Allbright about 2 hours ago: "John Elway is not in charge, and hasn't been in years."
Elway is listed as a consultant to the team - you don't have to be in charge to provide advice to the current GM. What position did Elway play ?
You don't think it was a group decision to bring Wilson in and sell the farm ?
And George Patton is not the GM of the Broncos ...
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9 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
2022 - December vs Miami - 6th concussion, not even a violent hit. Missed # games?
It's clear as day Morse is going to have more problems with concussions. How many is enough?
After 6, Mitch should retire - he's made $50mil, has two young ones at home - not worth the added risk.
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4 minutes ago, nosejob said:
All he needs is a contract worth a couple of years and at least 20 mil. guaranteed. He's gotta be smart enough to somehow finish out this year without getting hurt. A lingering concussion issue will kill that. A lot of us have had back breaking jobs and worked through pain to bring home a check only to have that haunt us years later....or surgeries forcing a change of careers. I just don't think he'll have that wisdom until it's too late....and unfortunately, the bosses never care. He can be replaced. Just win baby. Get the job done to save the bosses ass.
Tua's rookie deal guaranteed him $30mil - even if he only kept half of it after taxes and agent cut, he should be set. And as someone else said, he might be a good fit in the one of the broadcasting booths.
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29 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:
Sorry for the verbose reply.
I had almost the same situation. I suffered 2 concussions in a six week span in High School and that was the end of organized football for me. My experiences in High School are not indicative of all concussions and it happened many years ago, science has evolved, money was not involved, but having lived through it I'd like to share my experience with the board.
First concussion - took a blow to the head, most considered it an illegal hit (helmet to helmet). Symptoms were obvious. I had trouble getting up and walking. Immediate dizziness, staggered motor coordination and mental confusion. A lot like Tua in the Bills game. From what I understand this is what the spotters are looking for in the NFL. By that definition the spotter/ neurologist/ Dolphins were negligent in the Bills game. Miami did replace those people. He clearly was staggering after that blow. I was taken out of the game and evaluated as much as a high school in the 90's could. I had to get medical clearance to practice and play again. Doctor confirmed a concussion and I had to miss 4 weeks of practice and games. Could only play again if symptoms cleared. They did in a day or two, I was cleared 2 weeks later and I was back at it after the 4 weeks elapsed.
Second concussion - Second game back I stretched out for an overthrown ball and the safety knocked me out cold. Violent but clean hit. He mostly hit my armpit and shoulder area with a shoulder pad hit. Some combo of the hit, my own shoulder pad hitting my helmet and the neck whip from the severity of the hit knocked me out. I was told I did not have what wold now be called a 'fencing position'. I just got knocked out cold like a boxer. I remember stretching for the pass and hearing a crack. Apparently it was the loudest hit many people had heard and people were immediately running onto the field. I came to, flat on my back, with a dozen or so people staring down at me. The odd thing with that second concussion was that it was seemingly less direct contact with my head. I felt almost no immediate symptoms, except double vision. 'Double vision' is a bit of a misleading term. For me the edges of objects were clear, but there were two edges to everything, like having two photo negatives on top of each other but spaced apart by just the smallest amount. I had none of the other symptoms I experienced from the prior concussion. I was back in in the second half. I was mentally clear. Nothing else indicated a concussion. As the game wore on my concentration started to lapse. Not unlike Tua vs Green Bay. Things got progressively worse that night. Bad headache and confusion set in. Light and sound started to give me terrible headaches the next morning. I had ringing in my ears to go with the double vision which had not cleared up. Met with my doctor that day and he told me it was another concussion, and that I should not play football anymore, at least let the season end without playing. He told me my risk of another concussion that season was very high, and my risk for more concussions in general was now higher. In the long term his would do bad damage to me, including symptoms that may not go away.
That was @30 years ago, but even then doctors knew once you get a concussion, it gets 'easier' to get them more frequently. Especially in a short time span. I think this is why a lot of doctors were suggesting Tua sit out the rest of the season back after the Cincy game. My criticism is for Miami to not sit Tua for the season after the Cincy game, and admit the blow in the Bills game was probably a concussion.
From my experience, It is possible for concussion symptoms to be delayed. They are not always immediate. My symptoms were delayed on my second concussion. For Tua it was his <probable> third.
Each concussion can yield worse symptoms, delayed or immediate.
Football is a tough violent sport. But IMO being 'tough' does not mean repeatedly putting yourself, or allowing a player with a series of concussions, to put themselves at risk for long term neurological damage. I know comparing my experience to a pro is silly in a lot of ways. On the other hand I hope sharing my experience helped answer some questions about concussions for those who have never had them.
I really wish the Bills would have moved on from Morse two years ago. I have been pretty vocal about this. I like Morse the player, he has been very good for the Bills on and off the field, but I worry about his long term quality of life. Other options have been there in the draft and FA, and even on our own roster as a Plan B (Feliciano/ Bates). I have to think Morse's concussion history is why KC made him available in the first place. KC did not want to enable him anymore. That says a lot for an org that has made some very questionable player decisions in the recent past.
I give Tua credit for being forward about his symptoms after the game. I know personally that they can be delayed and get worse. Some of the reactions on social media have been ignorant and outright ugly. It is clear as day to anyone who has had a concussion history, or is familiar with those injuries that Tua has had three concussions this season. They are happening in rapid succession, from less and less violent impact, and reading between the lines the symptoms are becoming delayed and worse.
As much as I criticize the Dolphins for the handling of Tua, my own experiences and those of Morse make it a bit of a 'glass house' argument to be throwing stones from. There is a level of freedom and independence I have to agree with and want all people to have, including Tua and Morse. But there is also a social responsibility to provide honest feedback, information and intervention to stop enabling self destructive behavior. I do think Tua should sit the rest of the season and take some time to evaluate where he is, and understand that he is now at much higher risk for more concussions and long term damage. I would be a hypocrite if I did not point out that OBD and Morse should do the same.
Tua comes off as an intelligent guy - after 3 concussions (that we know of), I would hope he would speak to those who have been down this road in the NFL and other sports to see what life after football might hold. No amount of $ is worth permanent damage to the brain and I'm sure he knows that. It's the competitor in him that will wake up one day, feel pretty good, and want to get back at it and the docs just might let him. Then #4 comes and maybe #5 ...
Hang it up Tua while you can - don't end like Kuechly, Chris Pronger or worse, Steve Montador.
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Just now, Dick_Cheney said:
This is true, but they also now have a Head Coach who has a ring. Crazier things have happened.
Right ... Texans should have beaten the Chiefs which would have been crazier.
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31 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
Nice idea but the Chiefs play the Wilsonettes ...
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38 minutes ago, Mango said:
Eh, maybe. I don't exactly know how to qualify that but I will say....Josh Allen set the bar for himself at the end of last season and in the playoffs. For better or worse that is his measuring stick now. He hasn't played to that standard in some time.
Neither has Gabe Davis
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This place might work if you don't mind I-95 for about 45 ...
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Week 17 Gameday Thread - Around the NFL
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Packers win - Saints are eliminated.