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After the Diggs trade I hesitate to call any Bills contract 'untradeable'....but Milano is untradeable.
He has a 12.4mm active cap hit for the 2024 season. That turns into 25.2mm dead cap if we trade him prior to June 1st. It's 7.9mm dead cap in 2024 and 17.3mm dead cap in 2025 if it's a post June 1st trade.
I think we'd need at least a 1st rd pick to make a Milano trade feasible, and what GM in their right mind is offering a 1st for a 29 year old LB coming off a major injury?
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I'm just thankful its not the Bills.
That trip to London last year de-railed the season
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2 hours ago, FireChans said:
I am shocked that someone thinks that Mahomes and Allen are worse QB's today than they were 4-5 years ago because they haven't had better statistical outputs than their best seasons (2018 and 2020, respectively)
Wild take, but I guess you're entitled to your opinion.
That's literally the argument you made against Allen..... unless you were just pointing out an argument without believing it? The tone of your post suggested to me that you thought Allen is not working hard in the offseason. Apologies if I misunderstood
QuoteThesis:
I’m not sure if Allen works hard or not during the off-season
Evidence:No unofficial WR minicamp videos
No workout videos
Talks about focusing on healing and time off instead of conditioning in the off-season
Has not improved as a QB since 2020
Mahomes has been the best QB in the league since 2018 and Allen has been the 2nd best since 2020. Those were also their best individual seasons. It's technically true to say they haven't improved since those seasons, but it's an incredibly disingenuous argument to make.
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1 hour ago, FireChans said:
Do you think Mahomes has regressed since 2018?
I mean, the stats say he has, right? That’s an inarguable fact?
Yes he has regressed since then. That's his only season that is in the top 5 for best seasons by a QB in NFL history.
Mahomes could never improve on that season and still have the greatest career of all time.
Josh could never improve on his 2020 season and still be a HOF QB.
That's why the statement that Josh hasn't improved on his 2020 season is asinine.
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20 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Watching him play backs it up.
Who needs facts and stats when you can 'just watch'?
Mahomes 2018 season is on a very short list for best season by any QB in NFL history.
The fact (yes, fact) that he hasn't improved on that season doesn't mean that he's lazy in the offseason or doesn't watch enough film.
It just means he set the bar so high it's almost impossible to improve on it.
Josh's play has been about the same for 4 years in a row now. When you're one of the 3 best QBs in the league playing about the same not improving is still a VERY GOOD thing. Arguing otherwise and trying to present that as proof that Josh doesn't put in the off-field work is just silly.
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24 minutes ago, FireChans said:
I think Mahomes has improved since 2018, personally.
He had that weird stretch of 2021 where teams forced him to be disciplined and play more in the system and take easy throws, and he struggled for awhile before coming out the other side.
Mahomes stats don't back that up at all. In fact you could say he's regressed since 2018 rather than just plateaued.
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3 hours ago, FireChans said:
There’s two camps here
Thesis:
I’m not sure if Allen works hard or not during the off-season
Evidence:No unofficial WR minicamp videos
No workout videos
Talks about focusing on healing and time off instead of conditioning in the off-season
Has not improved as a QB since 2020
Thesis:
Allen definitely works hard in the off-season
Evidence:
I hope he does
Do you think the other great QB’s believe this? The ones with multiple titles?
I'll agree that Josh hasn't improved since 2020, but that's like saying Mahomes hasn't improved since 2018. These guys are at the peak of the profession. There's not really anywhere to go from there.
Whatever Josh is doing is working and it's more than good enough to win a SB
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12 hours ago, Billy Claude said:
Last off-season there was a very similar thread after a "story" from Jason Whitlock about the Diggs-Allen relationship. I understand that Jason Whitlock is not very reliable and I am certainly not saying Whitlock was correct but it definitely counts as a whisper. We had essentially the same thread last off-season and that didn't come out of a vacuum.
As stated upthread, I don't begrudge him taking a few months off and having a little fun to recover mind and body. I am much more concerned about how little film he watched which was confirmed on the McAfee show. McAfee asked Allen about it, which means that Allen not watching much film is a well known fact around the NFL. There was also a story that the backup QBs (Case Keenum and Matt Barkley) used to tease Allen about how little flim he watches. These would also count as whispers.
Before people come back with but he explains that "I don't watch a lot of film because teams play me differently", IMHO, that is a pure BS excuse.
Whitlock is less credible than the average TBD poster.
Whitlock admitted to making up a story about Diggs wanting out of Buffalo to live in a bigger/better city (better night life, better strip clubs, etc.). He then pivots and says the REAL reason Diggs wants out is because everybody on the team knows that Allen doesn't have that dog in him. That he doesn't care about the game or prepare the way other top QBs do. That everyone in the Bills lockerroom (players/coaches) know this and are ok with letting Josh skate by on pure talent.
What was the story about Keenum and Barkley teasing Allen over him not watching film? I don't remember that one and would like to read up on it. Can't find anything online.
Do you have a link for the McAfee quote? As I remember it Josh said he doesn't put a ton of stock into film study because once he learns a defenses tendencies, they'll switch it up and try and outsmart each other. Turns into a "knowing that you know, that i know, that you know, I'll do THIS instead" and that Josh would rather just play organically.
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1 hour ago, Billy Claude said:
This isn't a new topic, of course their were whispers. There were whispers last off season also, where people on this board fell over themselves defending Allen.
I myself have no problem with Allen taking a few months off. I am much more concerned that he doesn't like to watch film to the point that the other QBs in the room tease him about it and no, the " teams play me differently excuse" is the kind of BS you expect from your high school kid about why they didn't study.
Can you provide a link to a source for these "whispers" from a player or coach on the Bills?
I've yet to see one myself, but always willing to look at new data points.
I couldn't care less what random analysts post on twitter with regards to Josh's offseason preparation when they have as much first hand knowledge as I do (exactly none).
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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I’m bumping it. I’m BUMPING IT!
Has there been even a whisper of resentment towards Josh Allen other than from Diggs?
And I will stress the word whisper as Diggs has never said anything negative about Allen in public.
Of those 2 guys only 1 of them spends every February and March tweeting cryptic ***** intended to stir up drama.
Of those 2 guys only 1 of them skipped voluntary OTAs in 2023 and had the head coach "very concerned".
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Rex took over what was an underachieving team. There is a reason a coach get fired before the season is even over. He took over what I believe was the #4 Defense in the league and immediately sunk it to the bottom of the league.
If you think the job Rex did is anywhere near the level of coaching McD has done, then I don't know what to say to that. That is pretty astonishing. One is one of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL with a great win/loss record and the other was fired in season before he finished his 2nd year here and hasn't had any HC interest since and only been sniffed around as a DC.
If McD gets fired, he will have HC interest from other teams out the gate.
How is Marrone going 9-7 in 2014 with Kyle Orton underachieving? Orton was a low end starter (at best) on his very last legs. We had a top 5 defense and a bottom 10 offense that year.
Rex came in and the offense got a lot better while the defense got a lot worse, but the DEF was not close to the bottom of the league under Rex. In 2015 the Bills DEF was 15th in points allowed, 19th in total yards, 19th in passing yards, and 16th in rushing. In 2016 the Bills DEF was 16th in points, 19th in total yards, 6th in passing yards, and 29th in rushing yards.
Rex got fired before the season ended because he refused to bench Tyrod over an injury guarantee.
What has McD achieved without a top 3 QB? 25-23 regular season and 0-2 in the playoffs. That's really so different from Rex going 15-16?
You give a mediocre jackass like Rex a QB like Josh Allen, and yes, I think we'd have a SB by now.
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37 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Rex was a disaster as a coach. He took over a team he was supposed to elevate, not suck. Not just public perception, but even by players accounts. McD took over a team that immediately went into a tear down and full 100% rebuild...and McD made the playoffs with the roster Rex had after they traded away our #1 WR, starting corner, and best DT.
I feel like this is when a girl leaves an abusive relationship and then forgets and gets back together again with them later. Like they just gloss over all the bad like it didn't happen.
Holy hyperbole batman!
Rex was average-ish as a coach here. Not a disaster. He took over for a team that had been 9-7 and 6-10 under the previous coach and proceeded to go 8-8 and 7-8. He did this with Tyrod Taylor as his QB. A guy that's been nothing more than a competent backup for the rest of his career.
Rex's biggest mistake was setting expectations as high as he did.
As far as results go, Rex was a mediocre coach that got mediocre results from a mediocre roster. Let's not pretend like he was taking over the 2009 Colts.
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5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Rex wouldn't have the record McD has to keep him around this long. Have people forgotten how bad the Rex coaching era was?
Rex was 15-16 in his 2 seasons here (fired going into the final game of 2016)
McD was 15-17 his first 2 seasons
I think there's dozens of coaches that would've won a SB by now with Josh Allen. I'd even put Rex on that list
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18 minutes ago, Logic said:
This was the dude that was expected to go in the first round, but then had the legal issue pop up RIGHT before the draft, right? And after the first round came and went without him being drafted, his agent told/asked every NFL team NOT to draft him, as he wanted Collins to be able to pick his own team? Then every team obliged, and he signed a UDFA deal with Dallas?
I remember being so mad at the Bills that year for not calling his agent's bluff and just drafting him in the 7th round. What could he have really done about it?
Oh well. That's milk that was spilled a looooong time ago. And now, 9 years too late, he's a Bill.
He'll be an interesting bit of trivia, along with former Bills Vince Young, Matt Leinart, and Reggie Bush.Yup, a pregnant woman that he had relations with was murdered right before the draft. Police interviewed him but never considered him a suspect.
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2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Diggs is signed through next year as well. If he goes to Dallas it would be by way of trade or that he's cut. If he's released, he would not be eligible for the comp pick formula
Diggs has 4 years left on his contract.... this really isn't a rental situation.
HOU can cut/trade him at any time with no dead cap
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13 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:
54 million in dead money this year, nice job Brandon.
65 mil when Tre White hits the books after June 1st.
A catastrophic amount of dead cap largely from the decision to give Diggs a monster extension and then trade him.
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I gave it a D, and that's just grading the trade in a vacuum and not looking at the dead cap from the ludicrous extension.
Diggs cooled off in the 2nd half of the season, but he still finished 13th in yards and 8th in TDs for the league. That's a really good season and he's had 4 straight really good seasons for the Bills. There's no reason to think his production will fall off a cliff, although it's fair to say he doesn't have much time left as an elite WR.
Diggs+ 5th + 6th for a 2nd is a really poor return. If you net the picks we essentially traded Diggs for a 3rd. Trading a bona fide WR1 for a 3rd rd pick is not good value.
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Trading Diggs for such a small return makes that extension from last season look even worse in hindsight.
But sure, Beane's a wizard
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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
Too late to can McD?
Hate to say it, but yes. There's no good HC candidates still available.
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6 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:
So, is this still not a minor rebuild ?
Nope
60 mil in dead cap for the coming season?
It's now a major rebuild.
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36 minutes ago, FireChans said:
As we all know, when Peyton was getting clowned by Brady in the postseason, we all didn’t agree that Brady was just a better playoff QB, but that it really wasn’t Peyton’s fault. Lol
Peyton Manning first playoff loss to Patriots: 23/47 for 237 yards 1 TD 4 INTs (FWIW josh has 4 career postseason ints)
2nd playoff loss to Patriots: 27/42 for 238 yards 0 TD 1 INT
The Colts lost those games 24-14 and 20-3. Peyton's defense put up respectable games, but he was TERRIBLE in those losses. There's also a long list of bad playoff games by Manning against teams other than the Patriots.
I'd say either of those games are significantly worse than Josh's worst postseason game.
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10 hours ago, FireChans said:
This is going to be tough to hear but:
Mahomes in his three playoff games against Allen
1011 yards 9 TD's 0 INT's. He has never had a passer rating of less than 123 (!!!!!) against Allen in the playoffs.
I didn't realize that Allen played defense against Mahomes and allowed such ridiculous numbers.
Thanks for letting us know that it's really Allens fault and the Bills defense is not responsible.
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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I don’t want to get into specifics right now.
Not what I'd call taking ownership
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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I’m sure he puts more pressure on himself than anyone else. Why don’t fans respect him?
Speaking for myself, I lost respect for him when he failed to take any ownership of the 13 second meltdown.
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What do you think of when you see this pic?
in The Stadium Wall
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Mahomes is clearly not putting in enough work in the offseason and doesn't take football seriously