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Ha! Chris Watson. Man, been a long time on that one. Where does Micah Hyde rank on the punt catchers list?

The last few years notwithstanding, a painful reminder of another lost decade of Bills football. Hopefully, the next decade team is more Bills heavy.

This is an outstanding piece of “gif-mans-ship” here. Very fine work.

Fair points. I guess I also factor in that Norv Turner runs a pretty complex system, and he did alright digesting that. At least in year one. He didn’t light the world on fire, but had a decent season. No question, Fitz is a sharp guy (have you heard he went to Harvard? ?) and has a ton of experience in Chan’s offense which probably makes him a better fit in the short term. Especially, if we are looking at a truncated offseason.

Care to explain? If I recall my timeline correctly, Buddy Nix was planning to draft him when Chan was here. But Cam was taken #1. If he was good enough for him then, I see no reason he wouldn’t work for him now.

Not surprising. The more interesting question is who could you actually see Cam being willing to sit behind? That is, if backup jobs are all that’s available. Let’s face it, Cam is a unique individual. Outside of Brady, Brees, and maybe Rothlisberger, who else would he agree to sit behind? I don’t see many scenarios where he’d be willing to sit behind a starter he feels he’s better than. Personally, if he’s healthy, I think he would make the Dolphins a pretty dangerous team. At least until whatever QB they are likely to draft is ready to go. If that’s Tua then he can sit for the whole year until he’s healed and ready. He’s more talented than Fitz. Pats would also be an interesting choice, but they are pressed soundly against the cap from Brady’s parting gift. Maybe the Chargers too, but they seem committed to rolling with Tyrod and a rookie.

I’m sorry, but for Christ sake, the guy laid it all out in a ridiculously long post with legit information from a reputably sourced article. But I guess that’s just fake news. Nothing but constant deflection around here. Reminds me of why I’ve never spent any time in the dark underbelly of TBD that is the PPP section. It’s clear this is just an extension of the Trump apologist zone. Don’t like the guy? Get out! Fine I’ll go, but first... The China problem is known. I agree, they F’d up by not being forthcoming and suppressing information from the rest of the world. A huge amount of blame is at their feet. Can’t trust them, and that’s always been the case. But based on their track record, don’t you think the situation warranted a little skepticism or intrigue until proven otherwise? Instead of blowing it off, didn’t the administration at least owe us that? At what point do we hold our #1 elected official accountable for his actions? Never? Ok great. Maybe you, but not me. Believe me, I’m not willing to exonerate states either. It’s mind boggling how some state leaders have reacted to this too, and they own some blame in how they’ve handled this. It’s certainly not 100% on Trump. But it’s incredible how devoted the Trump base is. The guy is seriously like Teflon. People just let the guy skate because he’s got our best interest at heart. Right. The guy doesn’t give a damn about you, me, or anyone in between. His inability to take accountability and accept blame is astounding. Just wait until Easter when this hoax is all over. Life will be back to normal and the guy will roll in a whole new cabinet of yes men and ego strokers. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. ? People are still so hung up on and upset at Obama nearly four years after the guy walked out of the White House, that they’ll literally look past every questionable or poor decision Trump makes and tout it as great as long as Obama didn’t do it, it undoes something he previously did, or it’s the opposite of what he would’ve done. Trump supporters tell everyone else to move on and move forward, but why can’t they? Completely stuck on Obama. And this is coming from someone who didn’t vote for Obama either time. It’s just irrational and misguided hatred. Let it go. I don’t even know why I bother because there’s no convincing anyone on here or otherwise to change their opinion. And that’s ok. I’m not asking you to. But can anyone at least acknowledge the President of this great nation shares some of the blame on how poorly this has gone so far? Is that really too much to ask? Feel like I’m living in the GD twilight zone. Btw - I know I’m just giving you all what you want with this post. Another log for the fire. I don’t care if anyone responds to this post, ignores it, or emoji rolls their eyes at it. I’m out of here after this post and won’t be back to comment further in this forum. It’s pointless to be here and clear my type of thinking isn’t welcome in these parts. I only bother coming to TBD to talk Bills. If you need me, you can find me on the main forum and roll your eyes at any misguided Bills take I have up there. Peace and love. I’ll show myself out.

As you’ve said, tough to predict with all the different variables, but interesting thread. I just hope they don’t think they are done improving the offense. I see mock drafts with Chinn and Dugger and I’m scratching my head. They could be amazing, but outside of stopping the run sometimes defense hasn’t been much of a problem with McD. The same can’t be said for our offenses. Have to keep stacking talent there. About the only way defense makes sense to me with that top pick is edge rusher. Need more youth there. I don’t need some small school third or fourth safety with our top pick to come in and play big/buffalo nickel. That’s a specialized luxury to me that can be addressed next year in the draft.

Yeah those factors make sense and certainly contribute. God bless folks that can commit to the NYC lifestyle, but that many people in a confined space and that reliant on public transport and other shared spaces seemed destined to struggle most with something like this. It’s early yet to say definitively, but hoping they are starting to get a handle on it to some degree with the news today that deaths have dipped slightly. Probably too early to say and this will be a critical week (like all the others).

Likewise! Agreed. It’s funny you should mention California. I used to live out there for a few years and really enjoyed my time there. I was just mentioning to my wife how remarkable it is that California hasn’t been hit harder. Not to oversimplify and ignore the challenges it is having with it, but CA has several factors of a state you’d expect to be experiencing more problems with it than it is. It’s a mysterious an odd virus to be certain, but kudos to whatever you all have been doing out there to mitigate impact. Hope they can keep it up and everyone stays safe.

Again, another fair and reasoned take. There are some steps he’s taken that I agree with even if I wish he’d taken them sooner (e.g., shutting down travel with China and Italy and the Defense Production Act). States absolutely bear responsibility and have an obligation to act appropriately on behalf of its citizens, so no argument from me there either. As you said, in a lot of ways we were already starting at a significant disadvantage in light of China’s information suppression. As unfortunate as crises are, that’s usually when you see America at its best - when we are all joined in a common goal and working together to accomplish it. I just want to see everyone put down their political party swords and work together. I think a lot of that could’ve started earlier and been better coordinated at the federal level. But again, that’s just my opinion. Look, I definitely came out hot in this thread. Some of it coming from the frustration of “no end in sight”. Even in disagreement, I do respect other message board member opinions. I sure as hell don’t have all the answers, and I have no real beef with any of my fellow Bills brethren.

Fair, but the guy just isn’t super animated. He’s always been that way. He’s always said he was thankful to the Bills for drafting him. I’ve never heard him seem excited about anything. Here or in New England. Of course it’s more fun when a guy has a personality like Tre, but I’m not going to hold the guy’s personality/demeanor against him. Based on the constant ineptitude the Bills organization showed while he was here, especially how it ended with that buffoon Rex, he has every right not to be singing our praises. Shoot, even we’ve all felt like the Bills have been a joke for a while. Up until this latest regime. It’s unfair to hold him to a different standard. Now...with all that said, I absolutely loved when John Brown lit him up on that one play in NE last year. Was it a huge play? Absolutely. But it was just one play. Guy is still a good corner.

I cannot understand the constant hatred Gilmore gets here. Am I happy he signed with the evil empire and has been getting all sorts of attention he never got for us? No, of course not. But to act like he didn’t do good things for us or isn’t one of the top corners in the league is crazy talk. Every corner gets beat. Even our boy Tre, who we all love.

Fair take, and I appreciate your opinion and the discourse. Don’t take this the wrong way, but even if I’m wrong as you say (which clearly we have a different opinion about and that’s ok), doesn’t the buck stop with the top guy in charge? Anything that happens good, bad, or indifferent during his presidency is his to own. Even if China wasn’t forthcoming earlier on (which they definitely weren’t, and is a huge part of this) or Fauci was giving bad advice initially as you say, we’re taught from a very early age that we can’t always control what happens, but we can control our reaction to it. Instead of blowing this off or thinking this was some political hoax, quicker acknowledgement and better reaction times may have saved lives. Regardless of if we have a cure. At the very least showing some empathy and taking some accountability for poor response time by his administration would’ve given him a little benefit of the doubt with reasonable people. Personally, I don’t think he’s capable of either. Again, just my opinion.

Lol. Congrats on your first week here and feeling the need to come down off your pedestal to lecture me on message board posting etiquette and what’s right and wrong. Lest I remind you, you came at me first. Contrary to what you may think, I’ve got no hate in my heart. At least not for anyone on here. Even you. My beef is with the people calling the shots in this country and anyone who believes they’ve exhibited anything other than complete incompetence in handling this situation. The facts are clear to anyone who is interested. It’s obvious. The guy is in way over his head on this and takes zero accountability for his actions. Unless someone wants to stroke his ego or pat him on the back. This isn't a politics or party thing for me. No...it’s much bigger than that. Believe me, I love the Bills with every fiber of my being. More than you’ll ever know. With the moves they’ve made this offseason and Brady finally out of the division, I’d love nothing more than the season to start on time with New Era at capacity with 70,000+ diehards in attendance. But...fellow Americans are dying. Some of which could’ve been prevented with earlier acknowledgement and better response. So forgive me if I don’t trust or give a sh*% about this guy’s opinion about whether the season will kick off on schedule. Guy doesn’t know jack and you can’t believe a thing he says. Listen to Fauci. Only one using his brain over there. Don’t believe me? Well, then enjoy Easter dinner when this hoax is finally behind us.

Sorry to disappoint you chief, but in case you didn’t notice there are far bigger things going on in the world right now than sports or whether the NFL season will happen. Pay attention. People are dying. That’s real life (or death in this case). You want to talk amateur? Keep burying your head in the sand. I hear you’ve got plenty of it down in Hawaii.

Moron. Incompetent. Narcissist. Sociopath. Got any others? Sign of a great leader is to constantly deflect and never admit when he’s wrong. Always someone else’s fault. He’s handled this entire situation so piss poorly. I’m supposed to believe this schmuck? Keep taking advice from Hannity and Limbaugh you loon.

IMO Still haven’t done enough to fix the offense. Diggs is a great get, but they should be focused on surrounding Josh with as many playmakers as possible. Like Mahomes in KC. Points win games. Score more please. Only position that makes any sense to me to take in Rd 2 on defense is DE.

I’m a bit of a hard a**, but was good right up until he flubbed the Bucs conference and division. Should’ve re-shot the whole scene to maintain credibility! ??

These days? Guy is 27, not 32.

Really solid player in this scheme....when healthy. That’s the problem. Guy is ALWAYS hurt. At worst, he’s a camp body like last year.

You may have said before, but how does losing Shaq shape your opinion on this? Do you think the Addison swap for Shaq is a step back or forward in the edge play department? For the record, I agree with you. Would’ve felt the same even if we brought Shaq back instead of Addison.

I’d love to pick up Harrison Bryant from FAU, but I’m not sure we are looking at TE in early rounds of the draft. Especially after taking 2 last year. Beane has positioned this roster heading into the draft with no glaring weaknesses. I think they end up going DE, WR, OT, DB, or RB with that second rounder. My preference would be DE or WR based on what we’ve done in free agency so far.

Personally, I like Cam. Solid player. Even now. But, does he have the personality to you that indicates he’d be content as a backup? He’s got a larger than life personality. A personality and ego so big it could divide a locker room at any bumps in the road with Josh. I’m not suggesting we stick with Barkley this year as backup, but Cam and his accomplishments are a threat to Josh. Josh has to be looking forward all year, as it is a critical year in his development. Not over his shoulder. Can’t see them going down that road even if he is a former Panther.

Yep, this is what I was referring to in my post. Not bad, but with the white ram it kind of looks like a ram skull with golden horns. Like one of those big steer skulls.