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  1. 1 hour ago, jkeerie said:

    Agreed.  I said in another thread that management ceded all decision making to Rodgers...who hand picked his coordinator and receivers.  He had calf issues in training camp.  Did no one consider the possibility that he might not be part of that offense at some point?  Just poor planning...or no planning.

     

    Catering to Rodgers' wishes (demands?) really suggests some serious dysfunctionality in the Jests FO/ownership, and my guess is that Jets owner, Woody Johnson, is the source. Wilson simply isn't competent.  Keeping him as the starter also suggests that somebody far higher in the corporate food chain wants him there.

  2. 2 hours ago, Since1981 said:

    Pure silly to blame HC & GM for QB1-HOF(ish) going down and in chaos. I have to think they’re on the QB hotlines now but it won’t cut it. 

     

    JA17 goes down. Allen #2 is a cluster year. 

     

     

    Who should be responsible for the Jets' repeated failure to secure an NFL caliber QB if not the GM (the owner isn't going to fire himself)?   The GM is the guy who hired the scouts and other talent evaluators.  The Jets have drafted 4 first round QBs since 2000, and the only one who was even somewhat successful was Chad Pennington whom they drafted at #18 in 2000.   The other three first rounders, all top five picks, have been busts: Mark Sanchez, #5 in 2009, Sam Darnold #3 in 2018, and Zach Wilson #2 in 2021, each one worst than the previous one.  Darnold and Wilson weren't even serviceable starters, which prompted the Jets to trade for Rodgers.    The Jets took Darnold in 2018 with both Allen and Jackson still on the board.  In the 2021 draft, the Jets picked Wilson from a group of somewhat questionable QB prospects.   The Jets mortgaged their future to move up in the draft twice in recent years and failed twice.

     

    The Bills didn't mortgage their future to trade for a 39-year-old QB.  They traded draft capital to get a prospect who has developed into a superstar, so their investment has been repaid, even if Allen were to be injured and out for a season.

     

    2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

    This from a man who threw more interceptions than touchdowns in almost every season he played in and for his career and the ONLY reason why he is in the HOF is because of Super Bowl III. 

     

    Namath played in an entirely different era when the rules of the game favored defenders and QBs regularly threw much longer passes than they do today, so judging QBs of that era by today's statistical measures reveals your lack of historical perspective.    

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  3. 3 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

    Bengals get back on track tonight, looks like burrow plays. Tampa wins too, I just don’t think much of hurts and especially that pass defense. Think evans has a big game against them and the conversation starts to shift to “who should we worry about more, eagles or cowboys” on all the morning shows tmr. 

     

    I'm not sure that Burrows' presence on the field tonight will get the Bengals "back on track" since he hasn't looked very good in the Bengals two previous starts.  

  4. 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    We should ABSOLUTELY NOT be taking tips from the Raiders. That was an act of desperation by a loser team.

     

    Truly dominant, winning teams dont need to do that stuff. Just line up and gain the 2 feet we need.

     

    That's nonsense.    Throwing a downfield pass on third or fourth down and short is a classic play call.  I'm sure that both Bill Belichick and Andy Reid have had it in their playbooks for decades even if Mike McDaniel doesn't.

  5. 10 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said:

    Absolutely the outcome is most important , but making mistakes a high school coach shouldn’t make is not acceptable at this level. You accept and are happy with a poor performance as long as they win, I expect improvement and learning from his mistakes, I also know he doesn’t get this slack next week against Miami, or against KC, Dallas, etc…

     

    Maybe you should watch more NFL games rather than concentrating on high school contests.   In the Steelers win over the Raiders, Garappollo hit Davante Adams for a long TD on a 3 or 4th and less than a yard.

     

    10 hours ago, Airseven said:


    Howell is a scrub.

     

    He's played all of 4 NFL games, Nostradamus.

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  6. 11 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

     

     

    He's in good company.  Only Brian Urlacher and James Harrison have achieved what Bernard did today.  Pretty impressive.

     

    11 hours ago, balln said:

    Am I happy they stomped wash. Of course

     

    for the most part they looked great

     

    but this herky jerky offense. And all the things I have outlined have permeated far too many games over the last 2 seasons- For me to Cheerlead this. It’s Super Bowl or bust fellas

     

    gabe Davis can’t be our #2 targets player. He CAnT. We don’t have that WR. Fine. Has to be Kincaid TE and rbs - cook looks nasty. I don’t think they’re using him in passing game well enough. He needs the ball QUICK on the run in stride. Not last second dumpoffs

     

    Did it ever occur to you that the reason the offense was "herky jerky" was because the Commanders defense aren't pushovers?   They have a good defense lead by their very stout DL with Chase Young and friends.

     

     

    10 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

    Just really bugs me when a professional OC for an NFL team didn’t have the common sense of a 12 year old playing Madden. 

     

    Yes, Madden is certainly is the standard measure of reality.   Maybe when you finish with middle school you'll realize that.

     

     

     

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  7. 1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said:

    People say Miami played bad teams, so have the Bills. This is not going to be as easy as that. I'd hope that anything we can come up with, D coordinators have already thought of and failed to impose on Miami. It's going to be a crazy ride this week. 

     

    Maybe the Fins should worry about the Bills who have a potent offense and a good defense.   They barely beat the defensively inept Chargers by 2 points and the offensively challenged Patriots by 3.   The Broncos just quit even before the end of the first quarter.

  8. I suppose it never occurred to all the armchair offensive coordinators on TSW that perhaps Dorsey -- with McDermott's approval -- decided to forego easy opportunities to run up the score?  What better time for the offense to try some new plays in high pressure situations under real game conditions than when the team has the game in hand because of the defense's dominance?   IMO, that could very well been Dorsey's aim with some of the play calls that seemed unnecessarily risky on 3rd and 4th downs in the second half when it became clear that the Commanders were done.  As a fan, I would have loved for the Bills to have kept those drives going and scored TDs but long-term, having  game time film for the Bills coaches to dissect is worth more than piling up the score against an already beaten team.   Moreover, if one or more of those plays had been successful, they would have given future opponents more to worry about when facing the Bills in those situations.

     

    I don't know if the above scenario actually explains why Dorsey called some of those failed plays, but it's certainly at least as plausible as the meme that Ken Dorsey is  incompetent. 

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  9. On 9/22/2023 at 9:28 PM, billsfan89 said:


    Has to be the training staff, the Bills during the drought (particularly during the Jauron and Chan years) were among the lead leaders in games lost to injury year in and year out. In 2018 the Bills fired their trainer ad overhauled the staff and have been one of the more healthy teams the past 5 seasons. 
     

    Outliers will happen where teams get hurt abnormally but when It happens over a long period of time something else has to be contributing to it 

     

    During the Jauron years, a lot of the injuries were because Jauron favored fast, small players.   When a smaller body collides at speed with a bigger body, it's the usually the smaller body that suffers.   I remember watching big RBs drag Bills LBs for 7 or 8 yards after they were tackled.  The Bills LBs were about the size of SSs.  

  10. On 9/22/2023 at 3:21 PM, Warcodered said:

    This seems to happen every year to them, is there some sort of issue with their training staff or something?

     

    It's like the Niners can't keep their QBs healthy, but it's spread around with the Ravens.

     

    I think that the Ravens still beat Indy despite their casualty list.   I watched the rerun of their game with the Bengals last night, and they were impressive on both sides of the ball.   Lamar looked really, really good as a passer from the beginning, which made his runs later very effective.  Their new OC and their new receivers are "functioning as intended".   Their D got after Burrow and pretty much shut down the Cincy offense.  Cincy's first TD was a long kick return. 

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  11. 4 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

    Herbert gets a ton of his passer stats in garbage time and against teams the Chargers should beat.

    If you ask Justin to make a big play..at a big moment…in a big game…he usually can’t 

     

     That is exactly what many people, myself included, said about Phillip Rivers during his years with the Chargers.   When Rivers finally escaped the Chargers late in his career, he found success again despite his diminished skills.  With stats similar to what he'd put up through his years with the Chargers, he led the Colts to the playoffs with a 11-5 record.   I think if Herbert was on a better team, he'd still have flashy stats, but those stats would translate into wins rather than losses.

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  12. 14 hours ago, uninja said:

     

    That 2010 Chargers squad is the proverbial case study for why special teams play DOES matter.

     

    That was the season that they ran through multiple kickers because whoever was kicking for them always seemed to miss a PAT or FG in a close game IIRC. 

     

    10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    Herbert is the definition of why wins aren’t solely a qb stat.  Average weapons and a defense that’s overpaid relative to their performance.  Imagine Herbert on the 49ers, Eagles, or Dolphins.  They’d be putting up historic numbers.

     

    Agree.  Conversely, my guess is that if Mahomes, Allen or Burrow were on the Chargers, their win-lost records would only be marginally better than Herbert's.   The Chargers' problems over at least the last 2 decades haven't been the fault of their QBs -- their FOs have always been able to find good QBs even if they figure out much else.

  13. 8 hours ago, FireChans said:

    I think Justin Herbert is a great QB being held back by putrid coaching moreso than just about anyone else in the league, but I also think he’s overrated. 
     

    It’s kind of a conundrum. 

     

    Oh, it's not just putrid coaching.   That would be too simple to account for the continual ineptitude of the Chargers over the last two decades.  Back in the early 2000s, the Chargers were loaded with talent, thanks especially to the Eli Manning trade.  They didn't have just a great QB in Philip Rivers, they had two, and the one they let walk away, Drew Brees, was even better.  They could steamroll teams during the regular season but couldn't win playoff games despite having plenty of talent.  For most of Rivers' career, the Chargers managed to lose key games with the same kind of blunders that they've made this season.  They've been doing it for 20 years.  The Chargers have changed players, coaches, GMs, cities, owners, stadiums -- and they still manage to "seize defeat from the jaws of victory".   The Chargers just "Charger".

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  14. On 9/18/2023 at 5:23 PM, hondo in seattle said:

     

    But I get what you're saying about OLs.  If you have a good OL, you'll not only get yards on the ground even with an average back, but you'll also keep your QB upright and healthy.  

     

    I'm reasonably happy with our backfield - I think they'll provide a lot of bang for the buck.  I just wish we had a better OL.  

     

    On 9/19/2023 at 2:32 AM, AuntieEm said:

     

    Then you keep improving your oline until it opens holes that any player can run through without difficulty.  You get the oline beefed up you don't even need top of the line weapons though doesn't hurt to have those as well. 

     

    On 9/19/2023 at 1:22 PM, Thurman#1 said:

     

    If we were going to bring in a really good player by trading away major draft resources and spending salary cap money we can't afford and stay in good cap shape ... for God's sake, make it an RT. Or another excellent young pass rusher.

     

     

    These three posts are dead on.  The  best investment for winning a Super Bowl is in the lines, and especially when a team has a great QB, in the offensive line.  Every QB needs protection and targets.  Without those two elements, even the greatest QBs fail.  A great QB with protection and good receivers puts up the points to win games, and with some good defensive play and luck, maybe even a Super Bowl.  A good/great RB is a luxury for a team with a great QB because running the ball isn't central to their success in the 2020s like it was in the 1980s or 1990s primarily because of rules changes.   A Super Bowl contending team needs a solid running game for protecting leads late in games and for playing in bad weather.  

     

    On 9/19/2023 at 8:27 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

    The same reason John Elway didn't win one until he got a RB. The same reason the Dolphins tried to get Marino one. Shanahan paid a King's ransom for CMC. He's considered the greatest offensive mind in football today. Think he knows the impact of having a great RB? 

     

    You do realize that John Elway retired after the 1998 season which was a quarter of a century ago, right?    That was then, this is now.

     

  15. On 9/18/2023 at 12:49 PM, hondo in seattle said:

    I've been criticizing the OL for, well, much of my long life.  Yesterday, the backs had more room than I'm accustomed to seeing.  That was great to see.  

     

    And I really liked the way Dorsey mixed up formations, personnel groups, and plays.  

     

     

     

    Me, too.  I can't remember a game in which all the Bills RBs so consistently having space to run,  probably since Wade Phillips was HC!  Individual RBs were successful largely because of their superior talent like Willis McGahee and Marshawn Lynch, both of whom went on to be Pro Bowlers and help their new teams to the playoffs.  McGahee was on both the Broncos and the Ravens playoff teams.  Lynch was an All Pro and won a Lombardi with the Seahawks.

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  16. 24 minutes ago, ToGoGo said:

    Did this many people die from fights in the old days? Like the 50s, 60s, 70s when fighting among guys was way more common? 
     

    It seems like more people die or get severely hurt now. Is it from inexperience? No more fighting code among guys? 

     

    They probably did but we just didn't hear about it because most news back then was primarily local.  "National news" was limited to news about politics, international affairs, and the rich and famous.  Back then, this story would have only made the newspapers and radio/tv news in the Boston area.  

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  17. 50 minutes ago, GottaRun said:

    I was at the game and just got back to thinking about one play where Josh seemed to float behind the line for a good 8 seconds before releasing the ball, he was slowly moving to his right the whole time.  At the time I was ticked off that no one became open in a good 8 seconds, but just now I'm realizing that Josh had a good 8 seconds where the line fully protected him.  That is huge.  Checking now and I see that Spencer Brown and O’Cyrus Torrence played 100% of the snaps.  Do we finally have a decent O line?

     

    I think we do, too.   There's been lots of complaints about the OTs this off/preseason, but the improvement of the interior OL helps the OTs be more effective.   If you look around the league, you realize that the best OLs aren't filled with 5 Pro Bowl caliber players but rather maybe 1 really good/great player with solid guys around him.  IOW, good OLs are better than the sum of their parts.  Hopefully, that's what the Bills have in their OL.

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  18. 8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

    I still think Harris can do some great things for us. He really hasn’t been used much after being hurt in the preseason. Murray can set it up well for Cook. Murray being more of a physical plodder at this point. 

     

    Agree.  I think that the improved guard play complements of Torrence and McGovern enabled Murray and Harris to be effective on inside runs, which the Bills weren't last season.   I think that Harris will be the RB to keep defenses honest since he's fast enough to run off tackle consistently too, so that Ds can't assume that only Cook will run outside.   I liked that the Bills had a real running game today -- and that Allen was simply a complementary piece rather than the major piece.

     

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  19. 2 hours ago, Max Fischer said:

     

    This is a good list.  Only one thing to add: The Sprinkle Cone has very good ice cream 

     

    Where's the  Sprinkle Cone?  

     

    I'm a fan of Fifties soft ice cream myself.  There are two locations: the original in the city on Washington Street near the Tops and the newer one out on 394 in Lakewood across from the Save A Lot plaza.

     

    Of course, the late, great Tastee Corners on Foote Ave was not only an institution but the best.  Alas, the building was too dilapidated to save, so it's only a memory now.  

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