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Cant help but to tear up.
This guy did it the right way. Stuck with one team all the way through. Hell be one of our most remembered players.
Im sure it will payoff for him post retirement.
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I mean...thats pretty much where we are at.
We see him make some monster plays. His % is low...but from what I notice...his completions are pretty IMPORTANT. I feel like that might be something that seems hard to account for. Idk how many times hes completed a 20 yard pass on a 2nd and 20 or something of that nature.
So lets see if he can pick up the accuracy or at least continue to make his throws IMPORTANT and show some gradual improvement as the team improves.
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49 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
For the first time since Brady stared his run I think the Bills have a real shot of beating them in Mass while brady is playing for something.
We gun get him boys
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BILLS BY 42 THIS WEEK BOYS.
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Drafts are a little more complex than that. Some of these players that succeed or fail....could be because of the team that drafted them.
Would gronk be the same gronk on another roster? what if the team in question has a scheme that only uses their TEs to block?
I mean...nobody is going to draft a guy with a 6th round grade in the 1st round because they believe he is transcendent.
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They all should have bought him something to be honest.
The only dude he should buy something nice for is Robert Foster.
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Just now, WhyteDwarf said:
There is an objectivity/bias issue with that method that can skew the results in any direction one wants to.
And thats the problem with stats.
They never tell the whole story.
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10 hours ago, VW82 said:
Interesting observation. I would counter that most former QBs tend to treat up and coming QBs with kid gloves the same way former coaches tend to do with current coaches.
Instead of Allen critics and Allen supporters, why can't it just be about discussing his play? If you're not able or willing to entertain passing stats as a way to understand and compare QB play that probably says more about you and your ignorance to numbers than it does anything else. There's a reason we've evolved beyond using only the eye test as a form of measurement and analysis. As far as I've heard/read, everyone and every measurement we have all say the same thing: talented but inaccurate.
Most of it is being lazy.
Stats work well only if you watch every throw and diagnose every play.
Completion % is a waste of everyone's time.
Adjusted completion % we can take a look at because that means someone watched every throw and was able to come up with more accurate result.
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12 minutes ago, Gugny said:
I was happy to see the Steelers beat the Patriots yesterday. I was also happy to see Brady have to get up off the ground almost every time he threw the ball.
But as I reflect on the past nearly two decades, I can't help but think that Tom Brady and Bill Belichick have earned the right to leave the game as champs.
There's never been any off-field drama or issues. No broken laws. They've been, arguably, the most professional organization in the NFL for the past 20 years. Sure, Belichick's pressers are boring and don't give any information, but I think that's an art and I love to see it.
Brady has been putting on clinics, week after week, for all football fans to enjoy. We can root for them to lose, but we can also appreciate stellar football, which is what he/team have been putting on display on a very consistent basis.
With the Bills out of it and the Patriots' run clearly coming to an end, I'd like to see them hoist the Lombardi Trophy one last time. It nets them the last pick in the first round (good for Buffalo) and will likely secure the retirements of Brady, Gronk and Belichick (also good for Bills).
And, frankly .... they deserve it.
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13 minutes ago, WhyteDwarf said:
I guess the moral of the story is 50% completion isn't going to get it done long term (I don't believe it ever has in the NFL season after season, could be wrong though). What combination of completion% plus Allen's running plus D will? No idea, but 60%+ ideally is where you want your QB to be IMO.
You really cant put a % on whats good or not good for a QB.
Its the effectiveness/importance of the throws that matter.
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I will take his 50% completion percentages every single day of the week.
People are starting to realize not to look at a stat sheet when it comes to Josh.
This should have been the case weeks ago.
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12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Here is where its deceiving. There is a bigger story around Allen than the stats show.
- Drops, way too many drops.
- Pass Protection, he constantly under duress. This leads to either poor throws at times where he trusts his arm to do too much or he has to throw it away.
- Penalties, he has had several great throws, even exceptional ones taken away by penalties.
- Down and Long all the time. See penalties above as well as the inability to gain yards by our RB's has us frequently in 2nd/3rd and 10 or more yards needed.
- WR's do not get separation. Kid already has to learn NFL defenses, and our WR's struggle to get open on their routes compounds this. In fact, Zay is mostly a ghost UNLESS Allen is running for his life where can slip away finally from a defender trying to hold coverage that long. Zay isnt getting open often enough on his actual route.
- No running game. This kid in the 3 games since coming back has personally accounted for about 85% of all the offensive yards this team has produced. You can see him getting winded end of games even, I mean he is already adjusting to a longer season. But add in the extra exertion from the runs and all the big hits he takes too. Having to do it all is just making things harder on him.
More importantly...Allen is NOT the same kid as he was before he got hurt. There is a clear difference in his level of play since coming back where you can see a lot of growth. He is literally a Clay dropped pass and a ST Blunder away from being 6-2 as a starter and 3-0 since coming back from injury. Heck, he might have even won the Houston game had he not gotten hurt and allowed Pickerman to give the game away. So when people point to his year long cummalitve stats to gauge how he is doing now, they are not correctly analyzing his growth and improvement.
No one is claiming he is a finished product by any means, but when you watch the tape, especially the last 3 games, there are very few just missed or way off passes. I mean he is literally just a few more passes per game being completed away from 60+% completion percentage. Now factor in all those things, and you can see a ton of places those few more completions can come from that are factoring in from failures of the people around him.
For example...how many more completions you think he will make when you he gets more chances of 3rd and 3 instead of the several times a game he is in 3rd and 10, 3rd and 12, 3rd and 15, 3rd and 20? How many more will he have when he has less drops? How many more will he have when he has better receivers who can get open early in routes? How many more will he have when he has time in the pocket?
You see, if you add just 1 more completion per game more with improvement on each of those issues, he would be over a 60% passer already. Now factor in him as individual continuing to also improve and its not hard to see how he can quickly get above 60%.
I thought this was common knowledge....some of these posters really dont get it.
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I thought he was going to end up saying something along the lines of how deceiving those numbers are.
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No ty. Hope both teams lose out.
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Hes done a lot for that garbage team.
Hes def the guy you want to workhorse while you find the QB youre happy with.
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2 minutes ago, DCOrange said:
The article literally includes clips that he took while watching the Bills games.
So that makes his article worse then doesnt it.
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Lol.....you can tell this guy hasnt seen one Bills game.
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If we had last years Oline...wed be in the mix for sure.
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
No he doesn't. He has the worst OL that has been decimated by injury and no weapons besides David Johnson and Fitz. Chritian Kirk is out for the season BTW.
They got a pretty crappy Oline...but ill tell you we got a pretty crappy oline too. On par with the Cardinals.
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We will prolly win by 30 if they need to win and in.
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I think im always going to blame the offense.
If they cant establish a run game, i cant just see them being able to control a game and win.
I think thats what stopped us from winning the last two weeks.
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1 minute ago, zow2 said:
A lot of things would do wonders for Allen and the offense,,,including a better rushing attack. But overall, Josh is fine. He will be solid. I was critical of him being the QB we drafted but he looks good for the most part. If you watched Trubisky and Goff last night they were both crap. It happens to all QBs. They aren't going to have 16 good games and all the QBs need some help from a decent Oline or rushing attack.
Im not really concerned for Allen tbh. If you told me a QB threw for 50% completion every game id be worried.....but not with Allen. What he completes with his 50% is pretty big.
Like we had a play 1st and 20 early in the game. Throws a dart. 2nd and 2. Like....thats the kind of movement he brings.
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I think this is the biggest thing that would help him grow.
Allen is a big time gamer. He has no problem taking every snap throwing the ball 60 times and rushing it 30 times.
But you can see what happens when you put the entire offense in his hands. You get the 50/50. 50% great, 50% not so great.
Fix that line, get the ball moving on the ground next year.
Kyle Williams was overrated imo...
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I think so too to be honest but in a very endearing way.
Like...the guy would make a bunch of really good plays and penetrate.
But in a 60 minute game you can see when hes not making a great play hes getting pushed back.