Eastcoastlegacy

You look at production, we put real receivers on the field with him, brown, diggs taking coverage and these guys are open. He hits them. Very happy with production he can produce despite the rushes. Don’t but him in he thaw place to do TOO MuCH and FUmBLE and he has it.

I've been thinking about this in a similar way. Looking at, and partly understanding, the argument about pre-season games and their futility. You on one side have guys going 110% then you have others just going through the motions. Players have argued that the discrepancy between efforts can increase risk for injury. Now you have one team really trying to win, and one more or less just sitting there with nothing to lose. This is a terrible look for an organization. Plus, the potential damage to a player's ability to sign lucrative contracts based on a 2019 performance is significantly impaired. Overall, not good.

Anyone think the Pats organization sent Flores to Miami to tank so 1. Brady can get 2 EASIER wins per year 2. Take any heat off their cheating ways which might need to increase in Brady's twilight years? Yeah its ridiculous, but at this point its not beyond them in my opinion. Plus Kraft like to spend time in south Florida I heard....

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/10/23/18011040/jon-gruden-raiders-trades-khalil-mack-amari-cooper-derek-carr-las-vegas

Agreed, but the appearance of this situation specifically, bringing in Chad Kelly at this point in the season, would not look like a move to improve for the short term. Bringing in someone who still needs some development, learn the playbook, very limited experience wouldn't look like a bridge, it seem like a move for future. Allen isn't realistically out for the rest of the season unless they choose to go that route and let him learn like he needed to from the beginning.

I don't disagree with this. Some though are ready to keep drafting QBs and roll the dice until we find one. Either way, bringing any QB other than someone in the Anderson category will likely feel like a slap in the face to Allen, whether he admits it or not.

according to ESPN's article

I guess its my blind rage that has left me as the only one with this misperception. The most likely explanation is we already played the "hail a rookie QB the next best thing then watch him falter a bit" game this year, so media may have learned their lesson before overstating Allen's performance. However, I haven't seen any images on espn of Allen next to Kelly like I did of Darnold/Namath. The reports I've seen drooled over that Darnold performance, and have given Allen luke-warm credit as a reason to be optimistic. I could be completely wrong though.

One example of a weird media bias I found pretty obvious: Look at the stats for Darnold's win agains the Lions... "The next Jets superstar QB." 16/21 198yd 76.2% 9.43avg long:41yd 2TD 1INT (pick 6) -1 rush yd 0 rush TD Then look at Josh Allen from Sunday vs Vikings.... "meh, whatever its a Bills QB." 15/22 196yd 68.2% 8.91avg long 55yd 1TD 0 INT 39 rush yd 2 rush TD I don't get it

I have a question. For the sake of this exercise lets assume we pick 3rd overall. If you are scouting QBs but you know you are 3rd, the 2 teams ahead of you are picking QBs and you are therefore targeting what may be the 3rd 'best." You get the guy you were targeting, did you still "get your guy?" Even though you may have ideally preferred one of the other two already taken?

As crazy as it sounds there is some talk in the Bay area that the 49ers may be showing Jimmy off because they may try to leverage him for a first round pick when they go after Cousins still. That would open up an opportunity for us potentially, but also any other team sold on one of these guys to jump up. I will admit though, in my opinion this is very, very unlikely. Broncos might want to be in win now mode, but they aren't. They lost their epic SB defense when Phillips walked away, and I'm not convinced Vance Joseph is a guy who has a back-up plan. The writing is on the wall for the Giants. They may not want to take a QB but I think there is a good understanding that Manning is winding down. If they return to form next year, where will their next franchise QB come from when they are back to picking in the 15-20 range? They will have a chance to sit in QB purgatory with us. They have an opportunity to take a QB now that will set them up in the future even if they want to roll with Manning for another year or two. GB was happy to take Rodgers with Favre in place and was in no hurry to start him. NYG would have that luxury. The bottom line is there are no sure things, we all know that. I do think the Bills need to draft a QB in the first or second, no doubt. However, I would not advise trading everything to get the third "best" option. We should stay put and take the best of the lot, and hopefully improve our situation with a reasonable Vet FA.

These are estimates. Right now, looking at standings our 1st from KC is 16 (1000pts), our pick is 20 (850pts). Our second round picks will be worth about 420 and 380. The list of teams ahead of us: 1. (3000pts) Browns: QB is very likely (new GM, Kizer underwhelming) 2. (2600pts) Giants: QB is very likely 3. (2200pts) 49ers: QB is possible (but less likely due to Jimmy) 5. (1700pts) Broncos: QB is possible (no sign they are sold on Lynch) 9. (1350pts) Redskins: QB is necessary if they lose Cousins 10. (1300) Jets: quite probable 11. (1250) Bengals: possible A move up to 3rd or 4th pick would require both firsts, and a second. and that gets you the third QB off the board. Is anyone here sold on the idea that the third selected QB in the draft is worth 2 first round picks and 1 or 2 second round picks? Is one first and one second round pick worth trading for the 4th choice of QB in the draft? 2017: 3rd qb: Mahomes, 4th QB: kizer 2016: 3rd qb: Paxton Lynch, 4th: Connor Cook 2015: 3rd qb: Bryce Petty, 4th: Garret Grayson And yes, I know there are better QBs in the 2017, 16, 15 drafts than those listed above, but they were taken later and wouldn't need to be acquired by a trade-up. I'm not sure selling the farm for 3rd choice is the way to go.

The league has enough money to pay an independent team of reviewers. Make up a jury of fans (one from each team), doctors, scouts, past players/coaches/refs and a few current players to make some decisions. If we feel this is too biased then have a completely random group of people with no interest in the sport make the decision. We have independent neurologists for evaluation of concussions, do something similar for consideration of fines and suspensions.

Not to mention this for anything other than his physical attributes, but when you look at a player like Colin Kaepernick. Someone with seemingly unlimited arm strength (59mph according the the OP's site), every throw under 20 yards was a laser. Sure, maybe he can throw the ball through cement at 50 yards, but how often do you see a play that is ruined by an excessively thrown pass? Or a ball fired through the receivers hands and into the defender's? I think many have made the point that arm strength among pros is much less important as an absolute factor than a QB's ability to properly time his throws, based on his ability. We will see on Sunday.

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For me this is really a win-win scenario. A. Pats**** lose B. Pats**** win, but its just the Saints, so it doesn't count anyways

That wasn't the point though. It isn't to say other teams don't or they shouldn't do things like drop into coverage. The point is that if a player comes in, wants to rush the passer because the coach told me its all about "me" why should I have to drop into coverage and lower my sack or TFL numbers? As an example.

Did anyone pay attention to Rex Ryan's intro to the MNF game last night where he explained what he would say to motivate the players? I found it pretty remarkable that his entire rant was to encourage the players to "do if for the name on your back." If he truly was preaching individual achievement and encouraging the players to play for themselves, and not the guy next to him, its no wonder players start to revolt when he gives them assignments they don't like (DLine "drop into coverage" etc). It's in direct contrast to the Bills coming out Sunday unified as a team. It really said a lot to me about his approach to coaching and why he is great at attracting players, probably by stroking their egos and promising to let them be the star, but has been awful at creating a cohesive team. Really, why his team despite the talent, just couldn't perform. These are things we all observed over the last few seasons, both in New Jersey and unfortunately recently in Buffalo, but I felt he completely explained himself in one lousy, awkward rant. Just was wondering if anyone else picked up on this.

I don't need to preface this by saying I obviously don't post much, but does this seem weird to anyone else. A Pats* fan lurking on our board all the time? It's like you get married then the dude she was banging before you shows up every time you go out to dinner and is very supportive in a condescending manner. "Hey, good to see you guys out, I'm glad you're still together, good for you. You guys are going to be really happy together some day. Probably. Well, maybe. Now excuse me I have to get back to some other things. "

I really don't understand the talent argument. You can pay as much as you want for players and still not put a legit team on the field (Washington, Dallas). We are all way too familiar with the Pats* around here but the truth is their players are nobody until they are coached to play. Look at their QB success, Cassel, even Mallet has played well in their system. An unproven QB comes in last week without Gronk and uses Chris Hogan to help him squeak out a win against a top 5 team in the NFL. What happened to their "make-shift" O-line I heard about all off season? Oh, they played well enough to win. HGH? probably. Pure talent? eh. Coaching? most likely. These are all professionals, they should have the capacity to perform at a high level when placed in position to win. Do you think Hughes is a different person than he was in Indy? He's just being used properly, or he hated it there and pulled a Mario.

The lowly Oakland Raiders gave up 507 yards and won last week. But, coaching decisions as well as above adequate QB play kept them in the game. We don't really have either of those things.