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  1. 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

    Good question....I am sure it will be discussed a bunch.   Would be curious to know how the shooter got the AR 15.

     

    (my opinions on this as a military that gave UP all my weapons except for 9 mill and shotgun for home defense that civilians should not be allowed to have AR 15s)

     

    How about if we want to debate gun laws in the US, Somewhere Else Not Here?

     

    I'll  note this guy apparently claimed to be "inspired" by the perpetrator (I will not say his name) responsible for the 2019 Christchurch Mosque massacres in NZ, carried out in despite of NZ's relatively strict gun laws at the time.

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  2. 47 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

    Just reading a story on very early 53 man roster projection.  It mentioned Boettger starting out on 53 then placed on IR so he;'d be eligible to return. 

     

    Is starting him on PUP an option or is that only for players who got hurt not in an NFL sanctioned activity, i.e. practice, game?  Thought if he's on PUP wouldn't count at all towards 53 and could still be brought back?

     

    So the short answer is he could go on the PUP list before training camp, but to be able to return at any time he would need to be on the 53 man roster on opening day (then he could go on IR and be brought back).

     

    Longer answer

    https://www.thefantasyfootballers.com/articles/what-is-the-pup-list-injuries-ir-other-designations-fantasy-football/

  3. 54 minutes ago, julian said:

    Yeah, totally understand many people have many different life experiences. Congratulations on a long and apparently very loving and respectful marriage.

     

     I was just adding some perspective, the details that are known here don’t necessarily point towards any domestic violence in any way. I wish I were able to say I’ve always made the right decision at the right time like you’ve been able to do.

     

     I did watch my mom pour a jug of kook aid over my dads head when I was a kid lol, maybe a trip to a therapist is in my future haha

     

    Please to note that I didn't say "domestic violence", my phrase was "domestic abuse". 


    PSA: domestic abuse takes many forms, men as well as women suffer from it, and violence is only one of those forms.

    https://www.theduluthmodel.org/wheels/ (note some of these wheels are slanted towards M abuse of F)

     

    I'm not saying it's definitive, but if someone tells me "my partner has jealousy issues, so I hide my phone from them" that sounds to me like a form of abuse where jealousy is used to justify actions that control who the partner sees and talks to and limits their outside contact.  If someone says "things got crazy between us last night" I'm wondering just what form the "crazy" took, and whether emotional abuse, economic abuse, intimidation, or threats were part of that "crazy" (note again: not saying it was one sided).  Then we get to the point where the police were called because he:

    1) took her wallet and locked it in his car (economic abuse/controlling what she does)

    2) used their child - took child's carseat, formula and medical records and locked them away from her in his car (again, controlling what she does)

     

    When you add that to the "jealousy issues" and the "got crazy between us last night" statements, that's what I see as pointers towards domestic abuse.  If a co-worker said stuff like that to me, I would try to find an opening to discretely take them apart and provide information about domestic abuse resources in our community.

     

    I'm not saying if the police officers gave the items back to her, said "we're good now, right?" and left, the situation would have escalated to physical violence (sometimes yes, sometimes no) but I think it would be naive to assume she would have put the stuff in her car and Jeudy would have kissed their kid and waved politely while she drove off. 

     

  4. 5 minutes ago, julian said:

    This seems like a situation most if not all relationships end up in at one time or another… 2 idiots that refused to understand when they should call it a day and in this case, return her items before she called the police.

     

     I’ve been married 30 years, I was refusing to give my wife here phone back once during a disagreement  and my son was like, “give her the phone”, I quickly handed her property ba k as my son shook his head lol

     

    I'm about to celebrate my 40th wedding anniversary next month.  We were together for 3 years prior to getting married.  I have never had a situation where one of us took the other's property and refused to return it or denied access to property during a disagreement.  That's not normal IMHO.

     

    I have driven away and spent the evening with a friend on a couple of occasions to cool off.  Totally good idea.  I calmed down and went home and we talked it out.

     

    I think part of the issue is that a lot of people have totally ***** models for what a decent adult relationship looks like.

     

    But yeah, two idiots with ***** models for how relationships work who escalated and didn't have your son around to write them a reality check.

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  5. 13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

    Well, I'm not sure if Jeudy and his girlfriend have any kind of domestic violence past, so I can't speak to it.

     

    When the girlfriend says "he has jealousy issues so I hide my phone from him", I think it can reasonably be inferred that there's some kind of domestic abuse dynamic in the relationship whether or not it's come to legal attention before.

     

    "Things got crazy between us Wednesday night" but wouldn't elaborate probably means cops talked to some neighbors who said they heard some form of ruckus.

     

    13 minutes ago, Gugny said:

    And further downstream, I agreed with Levi that he was likely arrested because the cops asked him to unlock the car/give her her stuff, but he refused.  In which case - yes, I agree that an arrest would be warranted.

     

    But if he was asked to return the stuff and complied, I'd see no reason to arrest him.

     

    This is a movie the LEO have likely seen before.

     

    The plot goes something like:

    1. One of the two domestic partners is planning to leave - not just the relationship, the state.

    2. There is a noisy dispute which neighbors hear, but police are not called (smart money bets it has something to do with the plan to leave)

    3. It escalates: one partner withholds necessary items the other partner needs in order to carry out the plan - personal identification, credit cards, cash, medical documents, baby supplies, car seat

    4. Cops arrive: "oh, misunderstanding, here you go officer!"

    5. Officers leave taking no action, partner who committed abuse by taking/witholding the property feels emboldened, nothing is settled

    6. Situation escalates again.  Sometimes this means bruised and bloody photos from the ER.

    7. Citizens are all "the cops were there this morning, why didn't they do something before this happened? useless."

     

    It's in everybody's interest, including the cops and Jeudy's, for there to be a "cooling off period" where the two are physically separated once the situation has escalated to TOPS (taking other people's stuff)

     

    This way, girlfriend leaves as she planned, doesn't want to press charges now that she got her stuff back and hit the road, Jeudy and his lawyers work out some kind of settlement probably involving domestic abuse counseling (which may or may not help him in his future life) and probation after which record is erased.

     

    Big Nothingburger.

     

  6. This seems to be a factual account

     

    https://denvergazette.com/sports/broncos-wide-receiver-jerry-jeudy-arrested-in-arapahoe-county/article_62f7f893-cf1e-574a-ba51-497e48b3e5d1.html

     

    "Jeudy's girlfriend, with whom he shares a child, requested help getting back her wallet and items for their baby, including formula and medical paperwork, that Jeudy had put in his car and wouldn't let her access, according to the probable cause statement. She was trying to go to Virginia but couldn't without her wallet and items for their baby, she said. 

     

    She told Caines "things got crazy" between her and Jeudy Wednesday night but didn't elaborate, according to the statement. She said she didn't want Jeudy to get in trouble and just wanted her things back so she could leave.  The probable cause statement said Jeudy took the items in retaliation for his girlfriend taking one of his phones. She said Jeudy has "jealousy issues," and hides her phone from him as a result.

     

    Around 3:15 p.m. Thursday, a spokesperson for the sheriff's department said Jeudy had not yet been formally charged. Brown said Jeudy's potential punishment could involve a fine and "small jail time." 

     

    "When it comes to the severity of charges this is a very low-level misdemeanor but we take all cases of domestic violence seriously," Brown said. "It's important to make sure the victims' voices are heard in these specific situations."  "

     

    27 minutes ago, Chaos said:

    Either what he did was against the law or it was not.  Cops should not be empowered to make up their own laws and arrest peple

    for not following the directions.  

     

    If you take my wallet and lock it in your car and refuse to give it back such that I call the police to intervene and return my wallet, I think you've committed theft whether or not you unlock the car and return the property when the police catch you in the act of having taken my property and locked it away from me.

     

    I may not press charges once I receive my wallet and its contents back, but that's a separate issue from whether or not you've committed a crime.

     

    I'm not a LEO or a lawyer, but framing this as "cops should not be empowered to make up their own laws and arrest people" seems bizarro-world.

  7. On 5/13/2022 at 8:09 AM, unbillievable said:

    Locked the Baby formula in the car during a national baby formula shortage.

     

    And her wallet.  Don't forget the wallet.

     

    22 hours ago, Gugny said:

    What he did was a dick move, but I can't see how that results in an arrest.

     

    Really?  WTF do you think should have happened?

     

    "Oh, OK, Mr Jeudy, give the lady her wallet and the car seat and the baby formula for your child back, and I'm sure nothing else bad will happen here"

     

    That's the attitude that in the past resulted in DV callbacks.

  8. 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

    I read about it somewhere …and it definitely wasn’t national media. Btw it wasn’t presented in s negative way since you know - it wasn’t him 

     

    Yeah, little point - when has a talented player EVER fallen in the draft because of troubles their FAMILY members have had?

     

    Fallen because teams don't believe their talent will translate to the NFL - Check

    Fallen because teams don't place the same value on their football and physical abilities that draft pundits place - Check

    Fallen because THEY THEMSELVES have had some kind of legal trouble or medical issues - Check

     

    Fallen because their family members, especially family members of a previous generation, got into trouble?

    When has this even happened?

  9. 4 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

    What's more shocking is that more of these guys don't get in trouble. I'm reading the list of first round rookie signings across the league. $30 mil guaranteed, $20 mil guaranteed. You are just handing someone who has never had money before a check for tens of millions of dollars. I don't know if I would have been responsible with that kind of loot as a 21 year old. I can only imagine the types of characters coming out of the woodwork with their hands out. It would be easy to make some bad choices and end up in some tough situations with people you shouldn't be hanging around with. The types of people we all hung out with at one point in our lives or another, and then as we matured we have likely distanced ourselves from those types of people that are going nowhere with their lives. Good luck to all of these guys and hopefully they have someone around them to help them make responsible decisions!

     

    Yeah, it's not uncommon in families that have a bit (or a lot) of money for the parents to put inheritance in some form of trust until the kid is 25, 30, 35...

     

    It's not just that the kid may be irresponsible, it's all the friends and family who feel "it's nothing to you to help me out with..." (a new car, co-signing a lease).  $10k here, $30k there, $100k somewhere else pretty soon you're talking about real money.

     

    Then of course there are all the new found "psychologists" who are anxious to become the "true friends" of people with money and help them invest, and the gold diggers (male and female) ready to help them have a good time.

     

     

    2 minutes ago, CNY315 said:

    Sure he'd appreciate you putting his family's business out there

     

    Not to play the a-hole here (comes naturally, no playin) but all of these things are part of the public record. 

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  10. 4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

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    Outstanding!

    4 hours ago, klos63 said:

    No,  he's not allowed to have a life outside of football. You obviously uncovered the actual meaning of my post. Good grief. 

     

    Then WTF exactly did you mean by "A little bit of me agrees with this.  I'm sure he's fine, but I wish we didn't see him out so much."??

     

     

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  11. 15 hours ago, klos63 said:

    A little bit of me agrees with this.  I'm sure he's fine, but I wish we didn't see him out so much.

     

    "so much", is the guy allowed to have any life outside football?  I'm sure he's taking care of bizness and minding his offseason training

     

    One of Watkins problems with the Bills was said to be that he had a fanatical workout regime and wouldn't let his body heal and recover - to the point where he even took his walking boot off to train when he was told not to. 

     

    Contrast with Stevie Johnson who put his workout routine the Bills gave him in a drawer and didn't look at it, just played basketball.

     

    The desirable path is somewhere in the middle: train, work out, but take a measured approach and give yourself mental and physical breaks as well.

     

    35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

    Maybe he just wanted to visit his kids in Miami #Daddyshome

     

    I looked for that picture of Josh bottle feeding a dolphin and couldn't find it

  12. 8 hours ago, Greg S said:

    (13) Tom Pelissero on Twitter: "Free-agent QB Nathan Peterman is signing a one-year contract with the #Bears, per source. Peterman — who opened the 2018 season as the #Bills’ starter ahead of Josh Allen — spent the last few seasons with the #Raiders. Now, he joins Justin Fields and Trevor Siemian in Chicago." / Twitter

     

    I don't know what this guy has got, but it must be "Catnip for Coaches"

     

    He's like the QB equivalent of "Something About Mary"

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