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I couldn't read the aricle becasue of the paywall, but that premise is correct IMO. The more swings you get in the draft, the better chances you have of getting a hit. Early rounds (1-3) render better athletes, so it obvously makes a difference where your picks lie. While I generally like Beane, I hate his draft philosophy of moving up to get "his guy." It costs us swings at the bat to get young cheap talent. Here are the early trade ups. QB you have to move up for, but the rest are very debatable how well we did.
In 2018 he moved up for a QB, which worked out because the Bills were lucky nobody selected Allen before us. Edmunds cost us a 3rd (we got back a 5th).
2019 sent a 5th for Cody Ford. Gave up 2 4th rounders for Knox.
2020 trade for Diggs, sent a 1st, 5th, 6th, and a 2021 4th. Got a 7th back
2021 no trade up.
2022 Elam cost a 4th
2023 Kincaid cost a 4th.
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Air is so good!
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Simms is 100% right. It's funny that Florio brings up Rogers as some kind of example. He's an example of a gigantic ass-clown and totally a "me first" guy IMO. Josh has always been a solid teammate. By burning his relatonship with Josh, Diggs separated himself somewhat from the rest of the team too.
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Trading up is foolish when we have so many holes. Good WRs are three rounds deep in this draft. Let the board come to you. Until the Diggs move, I wouldn’t have bet on a round 1 WR because they still could get a nice player in the second round. Now, I’m not sure about the first round but sure hope they’re not wasting draft capital to move up in the round. This is Beane’s weakness. He can’t help himself.
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He was a gigantic pain in the arse. C'ya! Moving on...and for the love of all that's holy don't trade up this draft for a WR when there's plenty to go around. Anybody recall Sammy Watkins?
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So, yeah PSL's suck, but this is news to people? Obviously, you guys weren't paying very close attention.
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Just a thought, but maybe Josh doesn't want to be extended. I'd certainly think twice about it if I want to win a Super Bowl.
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Rapp brings some physicality to a defense that practically has none. Nice signing and would like 3 or 4 more with some attitude, please.
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The Bills have a winning culture and are "winners." The problem not achieving in the playoffs isn't about culture.
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I'm not sure the comparisons fit your argument. Reid left Philly without a Super Bowl win. Dungy was a coaching change in Indy to win a Super Bowl. Your examples fit changing coaches not maintaing the status quo.
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8 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
I think there are posters who are afraid if McD is fired, we'll return back to the drought years.
So they are afraid.
But I would say any coach can win with Josh, yes any coach.
Bills would be far better off with an offensive minded coach.
At some point Bills have to realize its not working. Yes they can win the division. But to go to an AFC Championship and to win the superbowl something has to change.
When will this fanbase get tired of the status quo ? At some point you have to take a chance and leap forward in a new spirit of daring.
Every year that goes by is another wasted year of Josh's talent.
That's pretty much the point of having an elite QB. As long as Josh stays healthy, the Bills can compete. How many coaches would love to coach Josh? I'd say, pretty much everyone. Time for a change.
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3 minutes ago, Success said:
If we make the switch - I'd go Vrabel or Belichick.
I think McDermott did a good job this year. He really isn't a bad coach. But it just feels like we might need a change. It's unfortunate, but there is baggage w/ "McDermott's Bills" now. A change at the HC position would give us a bit of a new lease, and some fresh energy.
Very fair take and I think the "baggage" part is palpable.
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Hope he passes the test.
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Elway is the comparison.
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1 minute ago, Seventeen said:
Maybe, but we're only at year 2004 in that timeline. Reid went 4-12 in his last year in Philly.
Sorry, I missed quoting you before. Reid also had no super bowls until Mahomes. I think we have a comparable player. Where is the rest of this organization (top to bottom)? There's a psychological aspect to this too. After a while the players don't believe it. Maybe they are there now. How long is Josh on board?
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Probaly not and we'll be having this same conversation next year. Reid lost in Philly. He didn't win until he was with KC. We're the Philly situation in this timeline.
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11 minutes ago, BBFL said:
I agree. Too many drives doing what the opposing team wanted us to. Absolutely need to get a deep threat who can win balls.
Still can’t believe some of those drops by Diggs man… That caliber of player should be coming away with most of them. They weren’t otherworldly catches to be made…
Once you box Allen into an underneath passer you’re making his supporting cast win the game, and they never have.
Why give the guy a chance to go 25-30+ yards downfield where to cover, you have to have your back to the play. Once you do, game over. He’s picking up the first.
Need to get Allen someone legit if we can, options are tough for a FA. Mike Evans might be the only option for what is needed…
Looks like drafting someone so we can run a complete offense is what’s needed.
Also wonder if he goes back to the DLine for our first couple of picks given the complete no show they’ve been with Pitt and KC…
I don’t think anyone is making excuses. They know what they get with McD.
Personally, I give him one more season. He did an exceptional job of turning this season into the #2 seed and still could have/should have won it.
He gets a final year. If you can’t get to the AFCC and be in it during the final seconds at worst, then it’s time to move on.
He has earned that parting gift.
I agree on all but keeping McD. We're going to lose a lot of pieces this year, or should lose a lot of pieces. Just as well start fresh now.
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7 minutes ago, BBFL said:
Yeah but that isn’t the actual issue. The actual issue comes down to scheme and adjustments.
Spags over there completely shut us down. The only way you can’t shut down this team is when Josh is able to get the deep ball connecting. It’s a stretch that teams go to where they play a shell with everything in front and then collapse on it.
If Sherfield or Diggs come down with any of those 4 deep shots that turned into drops/incompletions, I honestly think we win the game. KC are forced into a TD position again.
Scheme and adjustments are coaching. Our offense pounded them the first half. When they stacked the box and run blitzed in the 2nd half, no real adjustments to take advantage. We stalled out on too many drives. But still, it wasn't the offense. The defense was a joke, injuries or not. Same every year. I was out on McD last year, and I'm doubly out now. Next year, I'll be triply out as they rerun this nonsense.
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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
The management, coaches, and players we have are close as you can get to championship quality without winning one.
We’re missing 1-2 impact players to go with Allen that step up in the playoffs. I was so disappointed when Bernard went down because I was hoping he would be one of those players. Von was brought in to be one but blows out his knee.
KC has Kelce and Chris Jones that step up for Mahomes every playoffs. Who does Allen have? That’s what we’re missing.
Completely agree on the players. We need more on both sides of the ball. Also agree that we are "close" with championship quality coaches...but they are not. Too many screw ups of all varieties. Riding the same horse isn't going to make it faster. Don't get me wrong, I like Beane and McD as people but too many mistakes by both at this point. Got to rip the bandaid off.
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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Hinder? People need to focus. Why do people think hitting the easy button and firing the head coach will magically help us beat a dynasty team like KC?
It’s about the players. They come up short in the big moments vs KC. Not Allen, he steps up. It’s the other guys. They have to find someone other than Allen that steps up in the playoffs consistently.
No offense, but who picks the players and coaches them? It's organizational. The players weren't the luck of the draw. It's the team the Bills built.
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It's all been said ad nauseam. The whole organization has shite the bed. They did the best they could but it's over. There a lot of comparison's of Josh to Phillip Rivers and that's completely wrong. The comparison is to John Elway. You know how Denver finally won the Super Bowl? Yeah, they changed regimes. This is the way.
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3 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:
Bump for the revisions to the OP.
Bump for the moment.
Bump for St. Crispin’s Day.
Tell’em, Bill…
King Henry V: What’s he that wishes so?
My cousin Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin:
If we are mark’d to die, we are enow
To do our country loss; and if to live,
The fewer men, the greater share of honour.
God’s will! I pray thee, wish not one man more.
By Jove, I am not covetous for gold,
Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost;
It yearns me not if men my garments wear;
Such outward things dwell not in my desires:
But if it be a sin to covet honour,
I am the most offending soul alive.
No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England:
God’s peace! I would not lose so great an honour
As one man more, methinks, would share from me
For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more!
Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host,
That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse:
We would not die in that man’s company
That fears his fellowship to die with us.
This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he’ll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember’d.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember’d;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.From Henry V, Act IV, Scene III
And to paraphrase that great former child star Sandy Lyle from “Along Came Polly”…
“Hey, Stadium Wall Members, aren’t you the fans of that team that never lost again?
…you’re ***damn right we are.”
What he said. Go Bills!!!!!
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1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
I like this technique in the RZ bc once it’s over the line it’s a TD and can’t be fumbled
Trevor Lawrence was doing that for the Jags but it caught up with him Sunday and they didn’t make it. As others have said, if you get hit in the air, even if not a great hit, it stops your momentum.
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Don’t like Allen jumping over the top, which he did twice. Risk for injury and fumble, plus too easy to spot the ball.
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We were lucky the Giants and Broncos both passed on QB's that year and no one else took Josh earlier, but you are right, we moved to 7 from 12 to get Josh.