Charles Romes
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On 4/9/2024 at 3:48 PM, Beck Water said:
If you want measurables or scouting reports, move on now.
I thought it would be interesting to look at where some of the top WR were drafted.
I started by looking at Y/G for the top-20 WR for the last 3 years. I used Y/G to normalize for injuries to WR or QB.
There were 8 guys who have been in the top 20 for 3 years, showing consistency.
Draft position: round-overall pick
1-5
1-17
1-22
2-51
2-53
3-765-146
5-1653 from Rd 1 (1 top 10 pick, 2 from the bottom half of the round)
2 from Rd 2
1 from Rd 3
2 from Rd 5
Another 8 guys 2 of 3 years: round-overall pick
1-4
1-6
1-7
1-71-11
1-243-69
3-84
Adding both groups together
9 from Rd 1 (5 top-10 picks, 1 top half of the 1st, 3 bottom half)
2 from Rd 2
3 from Rd 3
2 from Rd 5
12 guys who appeared in the top-20 1 of 3 years (keep in mind, this includes rookies and guys whose QB fell to injury): round-overall pick
1-25
1-27
2-33
2-34
2-36
2-52
2-64
3-66
3-69
3-89
4-112
5-177
Adding all 3 groups together
11 from Rd 1 (5 top-10 picks, 1 top half, 5 bottom half)
7 from Rd 2 (3 early 2nd, 4 2nd half of the 2nd)
6 from Rd 3
1 from Rd 4
3 from Rd 5
So, of 28 WR who have been top-20 for at least 1 of the past 3 years:
39% from Rd 1 (5 top-10, 1 top half, 5 bottom half)
25% from Rd 2
21% from Rd 3
4% from Rd 4
11% from Rd 5
What's my takehome from this? The odds are highest to get a top WR in the 1st, but the chances are about even between the top and bottom half of the round.Pretty good odds from Rd 2 and 3
After that, you can still draft a good WR but, it's a lottery ticket
If I feel energetic, I may go back and look at how many WR were drafted ahead of each of these guys.
I agree there is a distribution. But within the top statistical players there are a lot of smaller receivers who work the slot. To get the prototypical big X like we need you generally need to reach higher on the draft board.
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Rousseau if he was more consistent.
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Fromm what I remember wasting a draft pick on a backup QB is dumb
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Wouldn’t shock me if VanDemark or Gouraige is added to a move-up deal, especially if it involves the Giants.
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22 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:
Other. Trade back from 28 for a team that wants an OT or Penix/Nix. Take whoever is left from Legette, Mitchell, Franklin, or Worthy. Double dip in the 3rd or 4th round.
Im worried we will do just that, Mitchell, Legette, and Worthy will be gone, and we will reach for Franklin.-
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Maybe he could get his second GM fired
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Shakir is a nice complementary receiver. Let’s not get carried away.
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I’d only give up a 1 for a big X 6’3 or 6’4 who can dominate the boundaries and stay healthy. The little guys like Sammy Odell and Chase are injured all the time.
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I’m hearing that Ladd is too redundant to Shakir, Samuel, and Kincaid, but I’m not sure you can have too many receivers who can create separation in the slot. That’s the type of receiver who Allen loves throwing to and takes advantage of Allen’s huge arm with low risk. Only a rare-arm strength QBs can make a living off of throwing to receivers who they see open.
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14 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
I think this will end badly for the Texans when Diggs starts pouting after realizing he is #2 or #3 on their depth chart. He is going to be a distraction for their excellent young QB.
We will see how long Ryans puts up with his attitude. Imo, Ryans will be swifter than McDermott to impose discipline
I think they finally pulled the trigger when they realized the pouting that would go on after drafting the heir apparent in the first, even waiting until 28.
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1 minute ago, Low Positive said:
I've waited to post on this until I could find some positive spin, but I just can't. The Bills WR room, right now, consists of the 3rd option on the last-place 2023 Washington Commanders and a 5th-round slot receiver. That's it. The Buffalo Bills currently have ZERO elite weapons on offense.
Kincaid in year 2? The league leader in catch % per target who was also 11th in ypc?
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10 minutes ago, boyst said:
The more I sit here the more I am happy riding out the WR with a pick at 28. Draft OL, DL, LB, and S... Retool this year.
Next year in a healthy cap, 2 picks inside 40, another at 55-65ish we can move up if we want or draft 2 more WRs and more firepower.
Stay at 28. For the love of God.
there was about a zero chance of Beane staying at 28 before this trade
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VanDemark was a 6’6 225 pound volleyball player his senior year of high school.
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2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
It’s pretty ridiculous. The Chiefs have been pretty inconsistent the entire season, but moved the ball at will against us. Only putting up 17 against the Ravens. So give Josh Baltimore’s defense and we would’ve won decisively.
I thought not having the backup quarterback of the defense in there was devastating, especially give how much the team’s top tier pass rush relied on scheme in 2023.
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Winner plays for the world chess championship. Wondering if anyone is going and if it’s even possible to go. No tix available on stunhub.
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His total TD to interception ratio in the playoffs is 27-4
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For those worried the game is getting too soft, the “flying tackle” was originally banned for player safety in 1910 along with the tush push.
Harvard Crimson
NO WRITER ATTRIBUTED
September 28, 1910
In order that those interested in football may more fully understand the changes in the rules for 1910, it may be well to review the work of the committee and to state and explain what the changes are, although it is difficult to do so briefly, without the use of many technical terms.
One thing particularly should be clearly understood,--that the underlying purpose of the new rules was to minimize the element of danger in the game. To this purpose the committee adhered throughout all its work, and it should be commended for its single-minded efforts in this direction.
A list of the rules passed for the purpose of ensuring greater safety and an analysis of their probable effect shows how many and drastic the changes are. Moreover the other rules, though made in part for other reasons, should also help in the result sought for.
The changes made primarily to diminish the likelihood of physical injury were, briefly, as follows:
1. The halves are subdivided into four periods of 15 minutes each, so that the prolonged strain of 35 minutes of continuous play will now be removed, and the total time of play is reduced 10 minutes.
2. Players once withdrawn from the game can now be resubstituted, so that there is now no longer the temptation to play a man to the limit of his endurance before he is removed.
3. Flying tackles have been prohibited, in the hope that the heavier shocks of tackling may be prevented.
4. The runner is prohibited from "crawling" after being once downed, so that any "piling up" on the runner may be stopped.
5. The team on the offensive is prohibited from pushing or pulling the man running with the ball, a rule which should practically eliminate heavy mass plays.
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College level speed.
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3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:
What I would give to let Josh have a WR as talented as Lee Evans was
The guy that lost the AFCCG for the ravens?
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We are not getting any late offseason free agent boost to the pass rush this year.
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Says a lot about the kind of player he’s been to get that kind of deal from that kind of organization with that kind of injury history.
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He’s going to look as slow as Sammy his last time at the Ralph in ‘22
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The one rule I’d like to see to bring defense back into the game is make it a turnover if the offense loses possession and the ball goes out of bounds. This would remove the end zone rule inconsistency and make the game safer because you hit less hard if there is a premium on stripping the ball out. Most importantly, all of the ball control offenses we see these days - with teams going turnover free for multiple games in a row - have turned NFL football into a snooze-fest.
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Having to “settle” for a TE pass catcher last year was a blessing in disguise. We have a #1 receiver at the cost of no more than a 3 for a decade. As a receiver Kincaid is on a different level than a Pitts, Bowers, Fant, Hockenson, anyone who was drafted high the the last ten years.
Best examples of failed 1st rounders who revived their careers?
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Frank Lewis first rounder never caught on with the Steelers. Ended up playing 13 seasons, nearly 7000 yards in a running era, two one thousand yard seasons with the Bills.