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So here's where I stand because it's where the evidence takes me. -Trump has playfully commented a couple of times on Epstein. The first was the famous "Jeffrey loves women, a lot of them on the younger side." Then we saw the weird birthday book submission referring to every day being a new special secret. There was no indication of any disdain regarding Epstein's behavior; it was more like this is our own little thing. - the recently released 2011 Jeffrey-Ghislaine email - created long before the Presidential run - talks about Trump as a frequent visitor. - Trump himself has made weird creepy comments about his own teenage daughter. He has deliberately put himself in situations where he is around underage models (Miss Teen America, etc) and has been known to cop a look at them as they are partly clothed - He has said that when you're famous, you can do whatever you want. - He has had at least one (and where there's one there's usually more) with an "adult film actress" - someone who had sex for money, commonly known as a prostitute. He is not exactly the classic happily married man; he is a serial creeper - Virginia Giuffre killed herself, but before that had said nothing untoward happened between herself and Trump - Trump also has the known practice of paying off people who could release embarrassing information about him Conclusion: I think it is very, very likely that Trump had sex with women procured by Epstein/Maxwell. I think it is quite likely that he had some kind of inappropriate engagements (think "sensual massage" as Austin Powers put it) with at least one underage girl, and that there is a reasonable probability that this involved sexual activity of one sort or another. Am I saying there's proof that would stand up in a court of law or impeachment proceedings of these things? No. But I am saying that anyone who strongly disagrees with my conclusions is just being blinded by politics. The pattern is just too clear, both with Epstein and with Trump. If we were talking about Mike Johnson or Chuck Schumer hanging out with Epstein and his girls, my conclusion would be different. Clinton? Trump? Yep. Probably. With a high degree of certainty.

Marv Levy: 'Three things can happen, when you pass the ball, and two of them, are bad'.

I agree with a lot of that having sat in different places around the stadium in the times I've been there. But at midfield sound is fine. Too loud, but audible. There is one good lot of partying Dolphins fans by the front.......the rest of the place is usually lame. The military appreciation stuff for that game was probably a bit less than it is for an average game in Buffalo now, IMO. I just wish they brought out people who were injured or suffering to brighten their lives instead of the people who are doing just great and have lived to 100. No offense to those people but it's pretty transparent that it's as primarily an advertising opportunity so if you are missing a bone you gotta' wait to be thrown one. My main complaint was the travel-size Bills fans who show up and don't make any noise. The showing by the Bills fans in the stadium was as bad as the product on the field IMO. Loud for the first defensive series and then not a peep. Pathetic. We even had a few Bills fans who thought we were being too loud cheering on the Bills when they were on D and were looking at us like we were talking in a theatre LOL. These resort location games just draw people with more time and money than they have passion for the game or the team.

I remember a few years ago one of the morning guys on WGR literally said he did not want the Bills to run because you average more yards per pass therefore you can just pass every play. The one thing it did not get into was how the defenders have to read pass or run and how that slows you down, I mean he did I guess but he made it sound like you call a play on defense as a pass defense or a run defense, it is never that easy. You might call a play anticipating a pass more than a run but the players have to read run/pass and it greatly helps the defense when you don't have to make that read. This video was interesting and makes total intuitive sense to me. The Bills are 32nd is pass percentage, that is too much.

I say run, why pass? The Bills give up way to early imo

The teams at the top have very favorable schedules based on where they finished last year. I don't think the Colts / Broncos beyond this year have much staying power. Patriots are tricky because Maye seems like a stud but we are their only quality win and they have beaten reallllly bad teams. I get you can only play who is on your schedule but we saw this last year with Jayden Daniels too. It will be interesting to see them in the playoffs and how they do. Broncos are carried by the defense and they haven't had many good wins outside of Philly, which again, defense dominated. Had to come back vs Giants, beat Jets by 2. Houston by 3 (without Stroud second half, i believe) and barely beat the Raiders. Bo Nix has an off target percentage on balls thrown over 10 yards of 39%. Which is dead last in the NFL. When he has a clean pocket, he has off target throws 37% of the time which is also dead last. Not sustainable once you get to playoffs. The chiefs game this week will be very telling.

Yes. And last I checked, he is not the President. He is a private citizen, and if he were to somehow run again for public office I would expect a full interview in which he confronted with documents and photos involving Epstein.

Oh Dear God no... We've already done this before with this very video in the downright *hilarious* "Are McBeane secretly creating an elite offense?" thread. We had empirical evidence that the passing game was broken before and after this video came out. I don't know what games you've been watching, but the passing game absolutely is NOT better.

What week is it?

For the 1st time in awhile, we're the healthier team. Absolutely no excuses. Feeling good about Sunday. I don't think it will be that close.

You can say the same thing about the Bills. IMO these last 5 games is what they are. Teams have figured out how to stop their offense. Even though they beat KC, their defense kept them to a measly 7 points in the second half. Unless the Bills go all in on offense next season and get some elite WRs, this team isn't going to be much better.

I just watched Cam’s take on ESPN this morning about the Patriots being “fool’s gold”. His words. Like you said, two things can be true. And probably are. This turn around is in its infancy so I don’t think it’s overly hyped given they are the most successful franchise since the turn of this century. It is however an anointment too early like you said… the heads are saying they are THE team in the AFC. Bit premature there. He alluded to the Colts being more of a sure thing than the Pats. Don’t see that either. If you’re going to question Drake Maye and his ability to perform in the playoffs when it matters, I think you easily have to apply that to the Colts and Jones. That team has a lethal ground game. Pats do not, outside the Bucs game they’ve been a very average to poor team running the ball.

This is the newest argument, Keon is being forced to play a role he’s not suited for. The argument begs the question why.

Lied? How? You are the one obfuscating to protect a sex trafficking protector

Don’t want to hear about Bills injuries this week. Just win.

If we were deploying Ray Davis and had the same effect each time as we have this year it would alarming to keep the run game as focused as it is but with Cook it’s magic at any point. The Jets, Panthers and Chiefs games were moments of wow. That dude’s ability to slip past tackles is special. Whilst it’s sad to see a guy fresh off an MVP season not be as effective, he’s most dangerous with play action so you have to keep that as a bread and butter. Not to deviate this conversation off course but I’m in firm belief the award Josh received last year was because of the season prior where Lamar won. Should have been Josh in 2023 and Lamar in 2024. Anyway, you got to run the ball to keep a defense honest, also provides the guaranteed outcome of the clock continuing to tick.

Because I find the human element of these discussions interesting——how people rationalize hypocrisy (or in your case, the outright fabrication in your posts) especially when it comes to politics. Why did you lie about what I said? You keep using this phrase. Use your words to describe what “aid and comfort” mean to you.

I tend to agree with this. Have seen many posts on this board and on social media calling for Coleman to be inactive. I just don't see that. I know that fans and to an extent the team are disappointed in him. But I don't see them taking him from the guy that has far and away the most snaps as an Outside WR on Offense all season to a healthy scratch. I also agree that you're not likely to see Hardman actived this quickly. I don't see both PS elevations given to just one position. And I see them viewing Gabe as providing more than Hardman would on just three practices. One thing I definitely don't see is them sticking Shakir back there to return Punts while banged up. If you have Codrington active, as you do, he'll be handling the Returns. He provides nothing as a DB so it doesn't make sense to have him active if he isn't doing Returns. I'd be pleased to be wrong, but I feel like if Hardman were someone they felt was that important to revitializing the passing game as you do and were going to put him on the field less than a week after signing him on three practices - they'd have put him on the 53. Especially when they had/have an open spot on the 53 at the time of signing Hardman and now as well. The open roster spot will go to T.J. Sanders. Even if he were to be inactive and the 53rd spot went to a WR temporarily, that would mean we would need to call up a Defensive Lineman with both Sanders and Mathis out. And we'll also need to call up a DB with both Taron and Cam out. I just don't see a realistic way we'll be calling up both Davis and Hardman. And I see them wanting Davis active over Hardman.

We all have some things we regret or found ourselves in situations we wish we were not. I am unsure whether trump was in the league of Epstein, but likely he was there, and should he have blown a whistle, 20 yrs later the answer is different. What other more powerful people were there? This is bigger than trump...it caused Epstein to commit suicide on orders or he was done in! Who knows. Trump maybe to. The whole espionage scene is filled with degenerates and has been forever, look at the British spies in MI6, and this is money laundering, spy stuff. Over trumps head. He was not trustworthy enough to be involved deeply. His mouth could never be trusted. Look we all have been there and made choices, but we were perhaps still in that location and did nothing. But IMHO, this runs much deeper than trump. People we don't know. Hell do you think Bill C only got 1 bj in his life. Or Bill Gates, or Musk, or 20 other billionaires. I suspect we shall never know...too bad...

I don't think they were "dumb." They're just a counter to the current narrative, and I see the current narrative as being fairly circumstantial. As I've stated a few times - if the Pats had an average schedule this year, they'd probably have at least 4 losses, and most would be talking more about how they're climbing into contention than the "Pats are back! A new dynasty!" chatter that most nationally are preaching. 2 things can be true on this one: the Pats are greatly improved and show a lot of PROMISE, and they are also being wildly overhyped and anointed way too early. To me, they have proven very little so far. They could just as easily end up .500 next year as they could challenge for the division.

God I miss those days. Wasn't that the game Kelly threw a TD ( or just a great pass) and gave the "up yours" after getting clobbered?

absolutely. Only losers can’t handle it and Allen isn’t a loser

Beat Houston also then we will talk

Id prefer to trade him out of our division. But Jets do have a stockpile of draft picks. Id rather just get rid of both. Maybe promote Beane to VP, hire a GM (Not his pick) and let the new guy hire a HC, or whip McD into submission and make him quit.